Half an hour into the hour break for sidebar discussions among redistricting commissioners on various regions, two members - Democratic Commissioner George Moses and GOP Commissioner Lou Esposito - still haven't talked. Moses said they won't, at least for now. "We're not going to meet," he said. "The ones that need to meet are meeting."

Moses and Esposito have emerged as the hard-liners on their various sides on the evenly split bipartisan commission. Said Moses, "We didn't come into this expecting to gain anything, but we're not going to give anything up either. It's not necessary in order to draw a fair map."