As lawmakers questioned Cory Surber and Tim Heinze of the Close the Gap Coalition, Rep. John VanderWoude, R-Nampa, noted that before the national health care reform law passed, lawmakers frequently heard complaints from medical providers about the reimbursement rates under Medicaid. “If the reimbursement rate is non-profitable, why should we add 78,000 people to it?” he asked. Surber responded, “Medicaid payment rates change over time. ... We get less underpayment now than we got prior to Obamacare. Getting some underpayment is better than no payment, is one way I would respond.”