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Isn’t it about time?

Good morning, Netizens…


When has our national government ever led the way when it comes to social progress? In retrospect, it seems not. Our government damned near decimated our country during the Civil War in order to end slavery. School integration took federal marshalls to finally get the job done. Now it seems as if perhaps we might see the end of “Don’t ask, don’t tell” in the military.


Of course the inevitable resistance from the conservative and largely Republican coalition of pro-Christians are still strenuously resisting the passage of the bill necessary to make “Don’t ask, don’t tell” a reality. Perhaps they have been paying attention to the numbers of veterans returning from the wars overseas suffering from all kinds of emotional damage, for which the Veterans Administration do as little as possible.


We send the best of our youth, both male and female, off to war to kill people, but until now we have largely demanded that gay men and women stay out of the military. We have tried repeatedly to prevent them from marrying, although some states have already made that legal. They pay taxes and are regulated like everyone else.


Don’t you think it is about time our nation made them citizens, with all the rights inherent in that?


Dave

The churches versus gay marriage…

Good morning, Netizens…


The hue and cry is being raised by nearly everyone over gay marriage rights as a result of the pending court case for/against California’s Proposition 8, but we need to more carefully consider who opposes gay marriage so virulently with perhaps a poor man’s opinion.


The effort has been lead primarily by ultra-traditional Catholic scholars that have attempted to create a new natural law that would support the traditional Catholic positions on sex — that masturbation, all gay sex, contraception, all sex between unmarried adult straights, and oral and digital sex by straight married couples are all grievous sins. Uf da! If the traditional Catholics have their way, just about any sex other than between married male-female couples free of any “hanky-panky” or experimentation is forbidden fruit.


According to the church, the only sanctified marital state that can exist in the church is between man and wife. This, of course, comes from the church perhaps best-known for purportedly celibate priests who have a history of sexual child abuse. It has only recently from the Pontiff that such behavior between priests and children violates church laws.


Then we have the Mormons who oppose any and all homosexuality in all its various forms. While they are handing down the laws they also oppose all sex outside of straight adult marriage, despite their lengthy history of condoning plural marriages until 1890, although there are still fundamentalist sects of the Mormon Church today which practice polygamy today. Like the Catholic Church, the Mormons have issued several statements opposed to gay marriage. Does this mean all Mormons are alike in this? Incredible as it might seem, there are groups which support gay men and lesbians. These fractional groups are not associated in any way with the Mormon Church.


The real question, it appears, will be decided by the courts, in my opinion most probably the U.S. Supreme Court. It will go down in history as the judicial system largely voting for or against the rules of organized religions, depending upon how the courts determine the rights of non-heterosexuals to marry.


Isn’t that it? The courts ruling for or against the opinions of organized religions? It does give you something to think about.


Dave

What is marriage?

Good morning, Netizens…


(Elizabeth Chase from Los Angeles, and Kate Baldridge from Fresno, at a vigil being held on Monday, January 11, 2010 at the Plaza of the Phillip Burton Building in San Francisco, Ca., before United States District Court proceedings challenging Proposition 8. Photo: Liz Hafalia / San Francisco Chronicle)


Yesterday District Court Judge Vaughn Walker began hearing Perry vs. Schwarzenegger, the controversial case to overturn Proposition 8 on federal grounds. with pleas from two gay men and two lesbians to be treated like anyone else who wants to wed their sweetheart.


This all began in November 2008 when the voters in California which passed Proposition 8 into law, which defined marriage as the union of a man and a woman. According to the trial supporters this made the union(s) of gay and lesbian partnerships unequal under the law, and now a federal trial is underway and appears to be heading for the Supreme Court.


According to the United States Constitution, which reads in part:


Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Demonstrations were held throughout the State yesterday, by those both opposed and in support of Proposition 8.The conservative news media will jump on this like a possessed kangaroo, if they haven’t already done so.


Other states are following the trial closely, and it seems likely that the Supreme Court will weigh on this contentious issue.


Dave

A Good Presentation…

Good morning, Netizens…


Perhaps we have discussed this issue in the recent past to exhaustion, but this link was presented in another conversation and upon watching the UTube video, as jaundiced as I might be from discussing gay marriage, I felt compelled to comment further on this particular video, primarily because of the age of the young man speaking, if not the faces of the people behind him in the crowd.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIoj0erp0RQ


This 17 year-old kid did a commendable job of eloquently making his case. He has that “pretty boy” quality down pat and could be a choir boy for the gay-lesbian alliances, making speeches on a national basis. I cannot help but wonder how he will do as age and wisdom take over. After all, he is only 17 years old.


After I watched the video through the first time, I watched it again, primarily because of the woman on his left, as she seemed an unlikely enough person, in terms of her age, to support his agenda. Am I wrong here, or are most people in the demographic of 45-65 years of age unreceptive to making gay unions legal? Does that demographic change if you change the term to read “gay marriage”, which implies a church wedding, despite what the young man stated in this video?


I suppose if I were making a controversial presentation before an audience, particularly if the audience had that “reserve” so common in Vermont, I would hope that most of my audience would show the respect, if not the decency they gave this young man.


Is the right to a civil union one of the basic and essential human rights? What about marriage? That seems to be the unanswered question this young man adroitly mixes together. As such, it is a thought-provoking presentation by a kid barely out of high school. His mother should be proud of the job he did.


Dave

Message from the Heartland…

Good evening, Netizens…


Dawn BarbouRoske, second from left, of Iowa City, leans towards her partner, Jen BarbouRoske after learning of the Iowa Supreme Court ruling in favor of legalizing gay marriage in Des Moines, Iowa on Friday. Between them is their daughter Bre, 6. Their other daughter, McKinley, 11, reacts to the ruling at left. (AP Photo/The Des Moines Register, Christopher Gannon) (April 03, 2009)


The ultra-conservative right wing, in the meantime, made several news media forecasts that by approving gay marriage in Iowa, the State of Iowa would probably become a state where gay partners wishing to tie the knot will eventually gravitate. Since I have spent an immoderate amount of time living in the Midwest, I feel I know the political mindset of Iowa. I admit the State Court ruling in favor of gay marriages seemed a bit ironic to me, despite the fact I also feel the courts have no business in the institution of marriage.


Why or how did Iowa, a mostly-conservative state when it comes to such matters, choose to legalize such marriages?


Dave

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