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Take your butts outside

Moscow becomes the first city in Idaho to ban lighting up in private clubs and bars: ““Never smoked a day in my life,” declared 50-year-old Corner Club patron Ted English as he nursed a can of Rainier Beer in Moscow’s oldest watering hole. “Now I’m going to have to go elsewhere to get my secondhand smoke.” http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/aug/04/moscow-smoking-ban-goes-effec/

Do you think Idaho will follow Washington’s lead and enact a strict statewide ban on smoking in public places?

12 comments on this post so far. Add yours!
  • otisgexperience on August 04 at 10:51 a.m.

    One of the best subject headers ever, Cindy. :) Very clever.

  • hhuseland on August 04 at 10:56 a.m.

    I think it is inevitable. Many non-smokers attend bars. The minority is ruling the majority in this case, plus it’s unhealthy for the employees. In many restaurants that also sport a bar, children, in violation of the indoor clean air act, are subjected to the smoke as well. In many cases, the business owners/managers are smokers, and don’t have any sympathy for non-smokers.

    I smoked for forty years, quitting 9 years ago. I do resent a person sitting close to me blowing smoke in my face.

  • Joker on August 04 at 11:04 a.m.

    Idaho should follow Washington’s lead. It probably won’t happen cause of a Republican majority in the house and senate.

    I hate going to the park and smelling cigarette smoke as it floats through the air.

    Too bad the Democrats continue to be clueless in this state and can’t get elected. If only they had leadership — sigh.

  • Stickman on August 04 at 11:08 a.m.

    To answer the question, I sure hope so.

  • Frum Helen Back on August 04 at 12:01 p.m.

    Couldn’t you have found a picture of a smoker that doen’t look like me? Yikes.

  • JohnA on August 04 at 12:05 p.m.

    I’ve never smoked but I hate to see additional laws for something like this.

    Are we to expect ‘Butt Nazis’ to patrol Idaho bars to make sure the law is being followed? I mean, don’t the police have enough to do without being bothered by that? Besides, how’d you like to be the one enforcing it in Wallace, for example?

    Everyone has a choice of where to go to drink, and they also have a choice to work there or not if the smoking is offensive to them.

    I’m no ultra-conservative, but I truly hope Idaho becomes that last, true bastion of freedom in the country, if only to keep laws like this from changing the place too much.

  • poolman on August 04 at 1:04 p.m.

    John A - the laws are intended to protect non-smokers - particularly non-smoking bar and restaurant employees. If you make your living as a waitress or bartender you shouldn’t have to be subjected to a known carcinogen every night - it’s an OSHA matter more than anything else. And is it really asking someone so much to go outside to smoke their friggin cigarette?

  • JohnA on August 04 at 1:52 p.m.

    Again, I don’t smoke, Pool, so I don’t think it’s a stretch for them to go outside. And, whereas I fully agree with non-smoking in restaurants, many people I know who go to bars think smoking is a natural extension of the exercise (Bud in one hand, Camel in the other).

    As far as the employees, I suggest they work someplace else (like in a WA bar) and leave us to our smoky havens of dissipation. :)

  • Nick_Adams on August 04 at 2:22 p.m.

    No. A statewide ban isn’t needed. This should be handled at the local level.

  • Escapee on August 04 at 6:16 p.m.

    That’s the way it’s been in Oregon since the first of this year. I think it’s funny to see Smokers lingering around on the sidewalk outside the Tavern they’ve been hanging out at.

  • lent311 on August 05 at 12:59 p.m.

    I am a non-smoker but do not agree with this law. I went to school at the U of I and spent my fair share of time in the Club. Although it was smoky, it was my choice to go to the Club. If I was bothered by the smoke, I would not have have gone to the club. As far as the smoke bothering the employees, it is the employees choice to work there. It is in the Essential Functions of the position that the employee will be in a smoking environment. If they cannot handle that environment, do not work there.
    It should be the owner’s decision whether to allow smoking, not the city

  • Stickman on August 05 at 9:13 p.m.

    Anything that bans the nasty smoke that people put in their bodies to kill them I will agree with.

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