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TGIF Wild Card — 12.18.09

Posted by DFO

Dec. 18, 2009 5:33 p.m. • 54 comments

Huckleberries hears … that challenger Jim Brannon’s troops didn’t return phone calls — and, therefore, there was no meeting w/City Attorney Mike Gridley Thursday to try to reach a compromise in the 2009 city election court challenge. Dunno when they’ll try to re-set a meeting. If ever. Now, for your Wild Card …

54 comments on this post so far. Add yours!

moscow_minidoka on December 18 at 9:00 a.m.
“Now, for an early Wild Card …”

Nah, an “early” Wild Card would be if it was the first thing you posted in the morning. But, at least you beat yesterday’s time by a full hour. ;)
moscow_minidoka on December 18 at 9:01 a.m.
“there’s a letter out there that I’ll try to get my hands on that should make things more interesting at Huckleberries Central today.”

I can hardly wait to see the letter, and then to read all of Spencer’s posts explaining that the sky isn’t blue, it’s orange, and why it’s Mike Kennedy’s fault.
moscow_minidoka on December 18 at 9:04 a.m.
So, does anyone know what happened to Kage_Mann? Is he hunkered down helping with the Brannon lawsuit, or did he freeze to death while waiting in line to see Sarah Palin? I actually miss his abuse of standard punctuation usage… kind of.
nic on December 18 at 9:08 a.m.
“So, does anyone know what happened to Kage_Mann?”

No… and from what I’ve seen on openCDA, he hasn’t been posting there either. No disrespect intended but I feel like HBO is a happier place without him. Now if only Toad would come back.
nic on December 18 at 9:12 a.m.
Dave, Am I reading that correctly? Brannon’s lawyer requests a meeting with Gridley. A meeting was scheduled per Kelso’s request. And no one from Brannon’s camp showed up?
hmoffsuite on December 18 at 9:24 a.m.
nic >> ” No disrespect intended but I feel like HBO is a happier place without him.”

If you are looking for ‘happy’, go to McDonalds and get a meal. Not all agree with you.
otisgexperience on December 18 at 9:25 a.m.
Well, good for Bank of America. I wonder if ALL the banks involved plan on doing this.

http://ahead.bankofamerica.com/company-performance/bank-of-america-completes-repayment-of-tarp
moscow_minidoka on December 18 at 9:37 a.m.
Well, Hmoff, all though I almost never agree with you, your posts here are written in standard English and you are usually polite and I enjoy having you articulate positions and ideologies that I disagree with.

I can’t say the same for Kage_Mann. His posts were usually incoherent, and if you asked for clarification or tried to remind him to write within the boundaries of standard English, you’d get called a “paper professor,” whatever the hell that is.
DFO on December 18 at 9:41 a.m.
@ Nic re: “No disrespect intended but I feel like HBO is a happier place without him.”

I miss Kage.
Sisyphus on December 18 at 9:47 a.m.
I miss Kage too.

hmoff, here’s some pretty convincing proof of true colors of Republicans. Politics over country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/18/AR2009121800241.html
nic on December 18 at 9:50 a.m.
@ hmo RE: missing Kage “Not all agree with you.”

Yes, I realize not all agree with me. That’s why I prefaced my comment with “I feel.” By no way was I portaying my opinion as fact. I know Kage had his fans, you among them. I am not a Kage fan. Miss him all you want. I don’t.
hmoffsuite on December 18 at 9:54 a.m.
Sis. Since the democrats won’t even let the republicans in the room to discuss and negotiate health reform, they have few tools in their bag with which to work. One of the problems of having a lack of checks and balances in our government.
Sisyphus on December 18 at 10:02 a.m.
“Since the democrats won’t even let the republicans in the room to discuss and negotiate health reform,”—false again. Three Republicans joined three Democrats in the committee conference which drafted the senate bill. All out of proportion to their numbers in congress mind you.

So you’re ok with stiffing the troops to accomplish this political objective?
Sisyphus on December 18 at 10:03 a.m.
And for you Bent, here’s your Christmas present.

http://deepclimate.org/2009/12/17/wegman-report-ghostwriter-revealed/
brentandrews on December 18 at 10:07 a.m.
Annarbor.com has a very interesting story about a young man who became a teen-aged sex offender for relations with his girlfriend - and now faces up to a year in jail for living near a school.

Asks Matthew Freeman’s mother, “How many 17-year-olds have had a relationship with a girl a couple years younger than them? Come on.”

After blowing his chance for early release from the sex offender registry by violating his probation in a non-sex-related case, Freeman will have to register until 2028, and a recent visit by a state trooper confirmed he’s living less than 1,000 feet from a school.

“I’m getting labeled as a rapist and a pedophile,” he said.

***

Story here: http://www.annarbor.com/news/a-young-man-struggles-with-the-sex-offender-label/
Smacky on December 18 at 10:09 a.m.
Sis, for me this was the money quote of your link:

“I don’t want health care,” Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) said Thursday evening.
marmitetoasty on December 18 at 10:47 a.m.
We woke up to bloody snow this morning, and proper snow at that… even to of layed all day and when schools broke up for a fortnights crimbo break at noon, there was more then enough for me 7 nippers that I had picked up to have a right proper snowball fight……. I found it lethal though and was scared incase I went over, told me maties if that was the case then just to put fairy lights on me and a barrier around me and call me a tourist attraction….. the snow laid all day but has now turned to sleet ice…… so Im forgoing the village carol service and mulled wine and mince pies that is on our village green this evening……just incase i fall arse over tit…..

I know it aint snow like you doodles are use to, but to use in the south it was well proper good :)

x
spokelooneh on December 18 at 10:48 a.m.
“Sisyphus on December 18 at 10:03 a.m.

And for you Bent, here’s your Christmas present.

http://deepclimate.org/2009/12/17/weg…”

You do realize, of course, that analysis flies 100K feet above the heads of the deniers.
florined on December 18 at 10:51 a.m.
MM, you might want to check your own paragraph before criticizing Kage’s lack of perfection in language. A careful look, I think, of his posts would show that they’re easily understood, whether or not you agree with him. And if you read even more carefully, you’ll find that a number of posters have a similar kenetic sense of comma usage.

Kage, where are ya?
DFO on December 18 at 10:51 a.m.
Sad news for the family here at Huckleberries Online. Janie, the daughter of Frum Helen Back (aka D.J. Nall) died this morning. A Berry Picker who graduated with Janie from Lakeland High in 1982 e-mails: “My heart is broken for D.J. and her husband, Dave. They are two truly good people.”
moscow_minidoka on December 18 at 10:53 a.m.
“MM, you might want to check your own paragraph before criticizing Kage’s lack of perfection in language.”

Not asking for perfection. Basic 5th grade level will do.
Sisyphus on December 18 at 11:04 a.m.
“You do realize, of course, that analysis flies 100K feet above the heads of the deniers.”—10-4 good buddy. They don’t understand the scientific method, how can they understand logic?

Marmie, you be careful out there. Don’t want you re-injuring anything. Take some pictures for us if you’re able.

So sorry FHB. That saddens me deeply.
marmitetoasty on December 18 at 11:07 a.m.
I got an email from Frum Helen this morning with the sad news….. my love and heart go out to her and her family…… they truely are wonderful precious people….

x
marmitetoasty on December 18 at 11:09 a.m.
Sis, I have taken some photos but you will laff at our little splattering of snow LMFAO….it was kerb deep LOL

x
hmoffsuite on December 18 at 11:09 a.m.
MM. I can recall on one occasion, after having had lots of criticism thrown his way, Kage came back with a perfectly written and punctuated post. It was almost seemingly out of character for him. I thought it was cute and commented at the time. Perhaps his typing skills contribute to the problem. It is more difficult for some to get posts up than others.
florined on December 18 at 11:21 a.m.
I took a lot of flak at a conference once for pointing out that in the job market, the one who can spell and punctuate gets to be the secretary; the boss can get by without those skills.
Sisyphus on December 18 at 12:46 p.m.
Now here’s something you don’t see much anymore, a principled Republican.

http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/132985.html

They seem to be chasing them off.
hmoffsuite on December 18 at 12:58 p.m.
Sis. It seems to me that the biggest obstacle to getting health care reform passed right now are the democrats themselves. What happened with Howard Dean? And, fwiw, all the others that can’t come to any agreement? Maybe if they could actually read the language, things could get sorted out. The Reid method of using smoke and mirrors isn’t proving to be very effective.
Sisyphus on December 18 at 1:09 p.m.
Lets see, do I explain it to you, so you can ignore it, or allow you to wallow in your pool of ignorance? Tough call. What was that Republican proposal again?
Cindy_H on December 18 at 1:19 p.m.
((FHB)) I’m so sorry to hear of your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
brentandrews on December 18 at 1:21 p.m.
Found fleas on Molly today … she was in the vet’s for oral surgery this weekend. Some mongrel gave her fleas. Hmmmph!
Bent on December 18 at 1:39 p.m.
“http://deepclimate.org/2009/12/17/weg…”

You do realize, of course, that analysis flies 100K feet above the heads of the deniers.” — Spoke

At least we know how to link a page…

How about an EPA analysis?

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=31214d37-802a-23ad-4e0c-cfe56aa7d48d
Bent on December 18 at 1:42 p.m.
FHB, I can’t imaging the grief you must be going through and why the hell does this stuff have to happen during the holidays… that just seems to amplify the pain. We will pray for your family to find peace this tragedy…
JohnA on December 18 at 2:31 p.m.
My condolences, FHB. May God’s blessing help you ease the pain.
bcnqrgd on December 18 at 3:12 p.m.
I saw DOTC at lunch today, a mere shadow of his former image. Way to go Dan!

(I didn”t notice whether he was actually eating;-))
Stickman on December 18 at 3:34 p.m.
FHB: My carport will be blazing tonight with good positive thoughts. There is not much else I can say, except I feel for you. As for Kage, I’m glad he’s gone.
DFO on December 18 at 3:35 p.m.
@ BCNQRGD re: “I saw DOTC at lunch today, a mere shadow of his former image. Way to go Dan!”

How did Allred’s talk go today at the Demo luncheon?
danofthecommunity on December 18 at 4:08 p.m.
On point one; yes I did have a shrimp cocktail, good for the protein thing.

Two, I was very impressed with him and his approach. More than many folks, I know what it means to run as well as win with a “Blue D” after your name in very red places. You certainly can’t win by only appealing to (or being appealing to) just Democrats.

You have to be able to work with Republicans and Independents. They must trust you and experience that you treat them with respect and treat their viewpoints as just as legitimate as yours even when you have mutual disagreements.

That’s the approach he appears to be taking and yet he drew some clear, even sharp, distinctions about how his approach to governance would differ from current practice.

I noted Dan Gookin there as well and had hoped to catch him before he left (I didn’t) to see what his take was, particularly in response to Allred’s emphasis on the wisdom of the founding fathers and their admonitions to avoid special interests vs. the interests of the broad scope of citizens.

I obviously enjoyed it and think this election will likely be much more engaging than any we’ve seen for some time.
Joker on December 18 at 4:27 p.m.
Here is my official Huckleberries Calendar for 2010.
January
Mary Souza: Cold as ice.

February
KageMann: Keeps Ground Hog Day in his heart year round.

March
Jim Brannon: Never give up, never give in. Even though, the courts says he can’t win.

April
Digger: Do tips really count as income? Nah.

May
Christie Wood: Blonde, armed and dangerous.

June
Stickman: Time to talk a walk on Tubbs Hill.

July
Larry Spencer: Don’t tread on me or my mullet.

August
CindyH: Just saying, hot weather brings out the firefighters.

September
Bent: Brings the beer for one last summer BBQ.

October
TarynH: Time to go hunting and fishing.

November
Phaedrus: The Charlie Brown of Huckleberries. The Republicans keep pulling the football away from him.

December
DFO: Keeps everyone merry and full of cheer.
hmoffsuite on December 18 at 5:13 p.m.
This Al Franken / Lieberman matter does not reflect well on the democrats. IMHO
Truly on December 18 at 5:30 p.m.
OK - OK—need some help or advice here —I did send this to DFO today but as he is very busy and won’t be available he suggested I throw my question out to all of you: so here goes –

I have heard on the news, etc…. that the folks who are on unemployment will get an extension from the government due to the economy…..

I called 2 weeks ago here in CDA and was told they don’t know of any extensions.

My friend in Montana got one called a “third teir”???

Can any of you hucksters tell me what is up—if you are on unemployment how to get an extension—etc.

Running out of time and need some help:)

Merry Christmas All!
Peace:)
Phaedrus on December 18 at 5:35 p.m.
Here you go truly:

Idaho unemployment benefits extended with federal help
Tuesday, December 8, 2009
by IBR Staff

“Thousands of jobless Idaho workers who had already exhausted all their state and federal unemployment benefits will begin receiving additional federal benefits late in the Dec. 6-12 week under legislation approved a month ago.”

http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm/2009/12/08/Idaho-unemployment-benefits-extended-with-federal-help
Phaedrus on December 18 at 5:36 p.m.
This Al Franken / Lieberman matter does not reflect well on the democrats. IMHO

hmoffsuite when you stoop to this level of pettiness it does not reflect well on you. IMHO
JIMMYMAC on December 18 at 6:31 p.m.
In the theater waiting for Avatar at 640. Got here 15 minutes ago and it was already jammed pack. My wife thought I was a nerd for dragging her to this movie but now I am a larger than life nerd for blogging about it.
Truly on December 18 at 6:35 p.m.
Thanks to you Phaedrus: Now I am just scared out of my mind as I don’t know where I fit!!!

So glad I can show up and you folks will always help that’s why I love HBO.

Now - how to see if I am going down or can get more help until a job (of any kind) will arrive:) I am not above anything or anyone!!!

Peace!
Me on December 18 at 8:16 p.m.
I know we’re in Idaho - but I’m still a Montanan - just finished watching the Griz in the championship game - they lost. They were awesome this year and were undefeated until tonight.
Arpie on December 18 at 9:07 p.m.
Needs repeating:
“And, yes, the Nebraska Senator deal did turn out to be a bunch of crap. I apologize for having posted it.”
HMOff on another thread tonight referencing a thread from yesterday.
spokelooneh on December 18 at 10:22 p.m.
“Bent on December 18 at 1:39 p.m.

“http://deepclimate.org/2009/12/17/weg…”

You do realize, of course, that analysis flies 100K feet above the heads of the deniers.” — Spoke

At least we know how to link a page…

How about an EPA analysis?

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cf…”

Let me explain this to you, very slowly.

I cut and pasted a comment from Sis that contained a link. Unless such a link is shorter than one line, the link will get truncated. Such is how it has always worked here. The fact that you didn’t know that attests to your ignorance, or failed attempt to smear me for not knowing how to link. Laughable in any case, par usual.

EPA analysis? You mean analysis from an EPA ECONOMIST, who, I’ll grant you, did get his BS degree in physics, IN THE 1950’s, and has never been a climatologist.

Hmmmm, climatologists vs. an EPA ECONOMIST being cited by an evolution denying crackpot US Senator. The thinking people will go with the expert SCIENTISTS in the field, not some random EPA economist, who claims, against all the evidence, that global temps have not risen in the past 10 years, regardless of cause.

Next.
Me on December 18 at 10:59 p.m.
Don’t know what we’d do without you ‘learnin’ us ignorants Spoke - thank God (oh - that might not be correct) for you!
JIMMYMAC on December 18 at 11:12 p.m.
Got back from Avatar about an hour ago. As weird as this sounds, immediately following the movie, I didn’t even know if I liked it or if I didn’t like it. My wife was kinda the same way. There were some cheesey lines. No one is going to win any Oscars for acting. Those two things I knew for sure. And being someone that is typically hyper critical of those two specifics when it comes to rating movies, I was bewildered that I couldn’t decide whether I liked it or not. After getting home, my wife and I agreed that we were both a litle “sensory overloaded”. I was even fond of the characters despite the acting. I’ve now had some time to come to my senses and I can say the visuals are epic. There are movies you go to and walk away thinking the special effects were incredible-but incredible doesn’t even come close to describing the experience. “Special effects” doesn’t even describe how stimulating the visuals are. Go see it, but don’t for a second see it minus the 3D experience.
spokelooneh on December 18 at 11:16 p.m.
Despite efforts by some to lead people otherwise, “me”, God does in fact want you and everyone else to be informed and knowledgeable. Try it, you’ll like it.

“God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet — it’s yours.”
-Mann Coulter
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

vs.

“The Earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof - Psalm 24:1

As followers of Jesus Christ, committed to the full authority of the Scriptures, and aware of the ways we have degraded creation, we believe that biblical faith is essential to the solution of our ecological problems.

Because we worship and honor the Creator, we seek to cherish and care for the creation.

Because we have sinned, we have failed in our stewardship of creation. Therefore we repent of the way we have polluted, distorted, or destroyed so much of the Creator’s work. … “
http://www.creationcare.org/resources/declaration.php
Me on December 18 at 11:33 p.m.
Hmmmm - wonder how that all ties in with people destroying the unborn…… Destroying the Creator’s work indeed.
spokelooneh on December 19 at 12:02 a.m.
Ahhhh, the last desperate gasp of the ill-informed, dropping the abortion card in the midst of a climate change discussion.

Brill.

To reiterate, half the population is below average intelligence.

Bravo!
richard on December 19 at 9:29 a.m.
Wow Loone’ - you once again bless us with your inability to refrain from using insults to try to “outwit” anyone and everyone with whom you disagree.

“Brilliant” … said the schoolyard bully at middle school!

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