Groundhog’s Day Wild Card — 2/2/09

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  moscow_minidoka on February 02 at 10:46 a.m.

  I don’t need help getting through the long days of January… it’s always February in the Inland Northwest that makes me depressed, grouchy, and impatient for spring. Winter is fine, and so is spring - but that indeterminate middle-ground (where the streets and cars are grimy and sooty) just kills my soul.

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  Kage_Mann on February 02 at 11:00 a.m.

  Thanks MM, now I need a pill,b/c your comment depressed me.
  ;-(

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  Kage_Mann on February 02 at 11:20 a.m.

  Just kidding.I think we’ll have any early spring. ;-)

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  Liz on February 02 at 11:50 a.m.

  well, the teenage daughter is thrilled: longer snowboarding season…Lookout rocks!!!

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  silvervalleygirl on February 02 at 1:23 p.m.

  A little Superbowl weirdness happened in the Silver Valley yesterday. Those customers of the Suddenlink Cable Company did get the Superbowl, but it was broadcast on CTV, which is Canadian Television. No fun Superbowl commercials. Instead, they saw lots of Canadian commercials. There were some pretty irate people at work today. My husband said it was a rather interesting experience. One coworker joked and said maybe this is Canada’s way of slowly taking over the United States…LOL!!!

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  hmoffsuite on February 02 at 4:04 p.m.

  Just happened to catch Daschle’s apology film clip. What a weasel. What an embarrassment to Obama, and he, of course, ‘absolutely’ stands by his man. Obama has shown his lack of experience as an executive a great deal lately. He said in the campaign, he would shore up his lack of experience by surrounding himself with people. Look who he picked. And, now Holter. Dirty hands also. (his involvement in Mark Rich is adequate ‘proof’ to me, Thom). The stimulus plan is such a sham it isn’t worth discussing. Just a rip off to favor all democrat interests (so richly deserved). Obama best start making some wise decisions or he will lose favor. He already has with many. He’s stumbling out of the gate, imo.

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  hmoffsuite on February 02 at 4:14 p.m.

  There was one item in the stimulus package that really irritated me. Most did, but this one in particular. $800B for new cars for new cars for the government. Why can’t they just drive them until the wheels fall off like all the rest of us. The car I drive daily is a model year ‘00. I’ll get a new one when I need it, not want it.

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  thomg57 on February 02 at 4:19 p.m.

  “Obama has shown his lack of experience as an executive a great deal lately.”—

  HMO, just copy this line into a file and you can paste it into evrything you post, it will save you hundreds of keystrokes. Seriously, you’re just like my friend Rick who has been taking shots since November 5th all the while claiming he wants the President to succeed. You know what, I’ll say it_ YOU LOST_ you don’t get to decide everything anymore, get used to it. Got a problem with Holder? What about Bush’s AG’s who couldn’t even define torture? Or who ran the Ag’s office like a GOP recruiting lab? Never heard you bltchin about that.

  Thanks, I feel much better. Carry on. ;)

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  thomg57 on February 02 at 4:20 p.m.

  hmo, it was 600 million, not 800 billion. But whats a few hundred billion when you’re pulling “facts” out ya butt to begin with?

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  Staci on February 02 at 4:24 p.m.

  hmoffsuite- When I worked for a local branch of government a couple years ago, I DID drive a car that the wheels were almost ready to fall off of. It was an old Crown Vic, a former police department car. Not only was it a gas hog, sounded like the muffler had fallen off, and you had to crawl in the passenger side and across the bench seat to the driver side, but the defrost also didn’t work and you had to scrape the outside AND inside of the windows in the winter. And that wasn’t even the worst car in the fleet.

  I personally drive a ‘98 vehicle, so I’m with you that cars should be a ‘need’ and not a ‘want’ but there are definetely a lot of government cars out there that need replacing.

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  hmoffsuite on February 02 at 4:28 p.m.

  thom >> “hmo, it was 600 million, not 800 billion”
  “when you’re pulling “facts” out ya butt”

  You are right, I put up the wrong figure. You think that fact came from WHERE? That is where it belongs, along with all the other gifts to the democrats. Bush’s AG is no longer relevant. YOURS and mine is, the current one. That is why I hate to see a lack of critical thinking when it comes to the new administration.

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  hmoffsuite on February 02 at 4:33 p.m.

  staci. If the government cars are that bad, they should be replaced. I’m just guessing that all of those scheduled to be replaced might not be in that bad of condition. And, fwiw, if some are replaced, the one you had would probably not be as fortunate. My guess is the money from the democrats would likely bypass Idaho.

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  thomg57 on February 02 at 4:44 p.m.

  —gifts to the democrats—hmo

  So Democrats own the Auto Companies?

  Interesting.

  —Bush’s AG is no longer relevant—hmo

  Convenient.

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  thomg57 on February 02 at 4:44 p.m.

  —the money from the democrats would likely bypass Idaho.
  hmo

  And you’re complaining about the lack of critical thinking?

  Laughable.

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  Staci on February 02 at 4:51 p.m.

  I think I’ll try to buy that car if they surplus it to buy new ones :)

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  hmoffsuite on February 02 at 5:09 p.m.

  Very weak responses, Thom. I would have thought you could have done better. The gifts to the democrats, comment, since you brought it up, would fall more in the acorn dept. And, yes, Bush’s AG is no longer relevant. Yours was a silly comment on that. Keep trying.

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  thomg57 on February 02 at 5:28 p.m.

  I can do better, but apparently you can’t; I posted facts and links disproving the so-called ACORN issue, last week. Pay attention and try to keep up, if all you continue to do is repeat the discredit wingnut radio talking points, I’ll be forced to ignore your pointless ramblings.

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  hmoffsuite on February 02 at 5:43 p.m.

  thom >>> ” if all you continue to do is repeat the discredit wingnut radio talking points,”

  You like to use that one when you have a weak argument, seen it before, several times. I’m not repeating nobody, Thom. I don’t listen to talk radio. Read the stimulus bill, Thom. Even you might be shocked at the crap Pelosi threw in and Obama signed off on. You should be emabarrassed for your party, really.

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  hmoffsuite on February 02 at 5:54 p.m.

  Thom. Lets approach it this way: Aside from the token $35B for infrastructure (roads and bridges), can you show me anything in the ‘stimulus’ package that will stimulate the economy? Pull us out of this economic downturn we are facing? Anything there? That was the original idea before it morphed into a democrat welfare package.

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  Bent on February 02 at 7:24 p.m.

  Hmoff, the House bill has slightly more than $76 billion in public infrastructure projects, and the Senate bill has roughly $62 billion in similar programs. Still a small percentage of the bill, but much more than $35 billion.

  The senate is expected to amend its bill on Tuesday and Wednesday and the infrastructure figure is expected to double

  And, Thom, I believe the Fords actually are Democrats…aren’t they? At least the one I met a few years back was…

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  Sisyphus on February 02 at 7:32 p.m.

  “I’ll be forced to ignore your pointless ramblings.”—Thommy, I’ve decided hmoff’s only here to distribute and regurgitate Hannity in what largely passes for critical thinking on the right. Every effort to provide him with facts gets ignored or rebuffed in the most cursory manner just like his mind is closed. This fact and given the expiration of the magnanimous one day honeymoon that hmoff was willing to grant Obama, issuing forth with a declaration of war on all things Democrat or progressive, I’ve concluded that his earlier protestations expressing an earnest desire to be exposed to other points of view were mere subterfuge for a more sinister and perhaps even devious plot to either irritate the hell out of us or act out on some sort of twisted retribution he deems is deserved from our previous observations on the direction of the country and the painfully apparent consequences that was sure to befall us should we not mend our ways. Or both. Unfortunately this leads me to the unenviable conclusion that I’ve been jilted by acquiescing to his comely advances and have provided the benefit of years of accumulated knowledge, honed critical analysis, and wry observations in the misguided understanding that he’d be accepting of this information for a communion of thought and a synthesis of ideas essential to the art of compromise. Instead I’m rewarded with nary a spark of such ambition, but am paid out with ill motivated repetition of ideology based broadcasted talking points laced with scorn, spite and derision and with such petty emotion for which I’m ashamed when I realize it is difficult not to respond in kind.

  So hmoff, it with heavy heart do I grieve at the missed opportunities implied from our first encounters here, but this relationship is no longer healthy. You are troll to me.

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  Cindy_H on February 02 at 7:38 p.m.

  Oh god. A blog break-up. Is there anything more sad?
  *sniff*

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  Sisyphus on February 02 at 7:39 p.m.

  LMAO, Cindy. No really there isn’t.

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  Bent on February 02 at 7:42 p.m.

  Hey speaking of the stimulus package, I listened to Sen. Mitch McConnell’s press conference today. He wanted to put $1 Trillion into perspective…

  He said that if we started spending $1 million a day on the day that Jesus Christ was born, we still wouldn’t have spent a trillion dollars today…

  I did the math. We’d still have over $82 billion left in the bank. That’s not adjusted for inflation or interest. It would actually take until the year 2235 to spend it all…

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  Cindy_H on February 02 at 7:49 p.m.

  Math make my head hurt. It’s just not stimulating, and those are big numbers. I think Bent is saying that I should go shopping to celebrate Jesus’ birthday. I think I already did that last month.
  But I could be wrong.

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  Bent on February 02 at 7:55 p.m.

  Oh, Cindy it’s not called the “stimulus bill” anymore.

  The House took the condom money out. Now it’s just the “American Recovery and Re-investment Act…”

  /just sayin’

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  Cindy_H on February 02 at 7:57 p.m.

  No wonder I’m not stimulated.

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  Bent on February 02 at 9:15 p.m.

  Bob… I googled stimulus this morning and that’s what came up… so to speak

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  thomg57 on February 02 at 9:22 p.m.

  “Aside from the token $35B for infrastructure …” HMO

  This is a shocking statement!

  Not the fact that you’re wrong, it’s gotten to the point around here that that’s a given (thanks, Bent), but that the fiscal conservative and Republican standard bearer on HBO actually believes that $35 billion is a ‘token’ amount!!! See HMO, that’s what happens after 8 years of George W— ROTFLMAO!

  Later. Much later.

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  Kage_Mann on February 02 at 9:49 p.m.

  Thom,Barney Franks just admitted in an interview that over half of the stimulus package has nothing to do with stimulating the economy.Nothing.The democrats want the rest to go to their entitlement and social programs.

  Obama better set his people straight like Pelosi,Reid or this will be the Obama depression.

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  thomg57 on February 02 at 10:06 p.m.

  this will be the Obama depression.—Km

  ROTFLLMAO!!

  George “Hoover” Bush crashes the economy during his 8 yera reign of terror and 12 days into the Obama Presidency it is “Obama’s depression.’ !!! Wingnuttery at its finest.

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  Kage_Mann on February 02 at 10:26 p.m.

  ROTFLLMAO!! It only takes one ‘L. and yera is spelled:year.

  Classes start tomorrow at 8 a.m. :-)

  BTW- Bush inherited a Clinton recession at the start of his presidency.Oh,I know that doesn’t matter to you.

  Nice,you ignored my post about Franks and attacked GWB.You leftys sure know how to skirt the issues.Congrats! ;-p

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  hmoffsuite on February 03 at 5:39 a.m.

  Sis. When Obama won the election, I did decide to be open minded towards him and give him a chance before being critical of him. I was not being disingenuous at that time. However, his appointments and demonstrated lack of judgement and experience is very concerning to me. I thought he was going to clean up government, be bipartisan and transparent. That has not proven to be the case and my concerns prior to the election are once again becoming real.

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  hmoffsuite on February 03 at 8:21 a.m.

  AP NewsAlert
  

  WASHINGTON (AP) — Nancy Killefer: can’t be Obama performance officer because
  of failure to pay unemployment tax.

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  thomg57 on February 03 at 8:52 a.m.

  “Sis. When Obama won the election, I did decide to be open minded towards him and give him a chance before being critical of him.”—hmoffsuite on February 03 at 5:39 a.m.

  “Obama will go for our guns. Holder is the means. Bills to restrict gun ownership are already in the making. Remember, Obama has an extreme liberal agenda and will pursue it to the fullest extent possible. Gun ownership will be attacked. There is no doubt about it”.—hmoffsuite on February 03 at 6:17 a.m.

  Yep, supportive for an entire 38 MINUTES!!!!!

  Is wingnuttery, one word, or two?

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  hmoffsuite on February 03 at 8:57 a.m.

  Thom >> “Yep, supportive for an entire 38 MINUTES!!!!!”

  Obama established the time window, not me.

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  DFO on February 03 at 9:25 a.m.

  >Is wingnuttery, one word, or two? — ThomG<

  Actually, “wingnuttery” is the type of word that gets posts deleted here and underscores my contention that the Left has difficulty posting without calling names. I’d find a new avatar fairly quickly Thom.

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  thomg57 on February 03 at 9:37 a.m.

  Dave, I thought “Dave’s Rules” prevented a commenter from calling an individual a name, but did not prevent using names to classify groups of people? Did that change?

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  thomg57 on February 03 at 9:39 a.m.

  My contention is that the Right has difficulty posting without using facts.

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  DFO on February 03 at 9:55 a.m.

  ThomG; I interpret your post to be aimed at HMOffsuite. For some reason, HMOffsuite seems to be a target for several on the Left Bank. I’ve killed a number of personal insults directed at him. I don’t know if that means the Left Bank is trying to run him off this blog, as it has run others off this blog. Or if it’s simply his turn in the Left Bank’s tank, now that Kage Mann has more or less been accepted here. I won’t allow another person to be chased off by the pack. I had a gutful of uncivil behavior in the fall presidential campaign. And I receive anecdotal evidence in private emails regularly how some regulars aren’t commenting as much due to uncivil behavior. I enjoy the spirit of this blog. But I also know when some are trying to run someone off b/c they dare to espouse different ideas, usually conservative. I’m no longer as tolerant of such behavior as I have been in the past.

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  hmoffsuite on February 03 at 9:55 a.m.

  AP NewsAlert
  

  WASHINGTON (AP) — Daschle withdraws nomination to be secretary of Health and
  Human Services.

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  thomg57 on February 03 at 10:04 a.m.

  O.K. Dave, fair enough, or not. When the Right posts their lies, innuendos and falsehoods, I’ll just let it stand so as not to upset the delicate sensibilities of some of your regulars. Sorry to have disturbed you.

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  Bent on February 03 at 10:07 a.m.

  Hey DFO, Dachel just bailed out on the HHS nomination

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  brandxranch on February 03 at 10:07 a.m.

  Why don’t we settle it with a WWF style match at Blogfest…if nothing else, seeing the boys all greased up and in speedos will bring some humor back into the debates.

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  DFO on February 03 at 10:11 a.m.

  ThomG; don’t try to drop this off as some great defense of truth. What you call truth is basically truth as you view it through your filter. I’m sure the Right would consider some of the truths that the Left Bank here holds dear to be no more than “lies, innuendos and falsehoods.” For some reason, the Right has been able to hold discussions about the issues with far, far less name calling. Unfortunately, while you diehard partisans are venting your spleens, a lot of Merry Hucksters get caught in the cross-fire. But I’m tired of explaining this to you purveyors of righteousness over and over. I’ll simply delete. And use the cooler, if I don’t make my point clear enough.

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  hmoffsuite on February 03 at 10:20 a.m.

  DFO >> “What you call truth is basically truth as you view it through your filter.”

  Thank you and Amen.

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  Cabbage Boy on February 03 at 10:21 a.m.

  ThomG,
  please relax and enjoy. Your candidate won. Smile.

  sincerely,
  a nut without wings.

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  Bent on February 03 at 10:23 a.m.

  Ok so you already had the Dachle story, but what about this one http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/fearless_staten_island_chuck_b.html

  Seems that Puxa(whatever) Phil may have seen his shadow yesterday, but Chuck (the New York version of Phil), didn’t see his shadow, and he bit mayor Bloomberg to boot … that ought to count for something. I’m so sick of winter, I am rooting for Chuck…

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  JeanieSpokane on February 03 at 10:24 a.m.

  DFO, you deserve a medal. I would love to channel you on Community Comment when I get the two who want to tangle (and it is always only two - kind of like “it takes two to tangle”). I am so weary of it I could cry.

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