“White folks have been killing Indians for a long time, probably time to give some other race a shot at it… ” — commenter Oh Well posted at 3:20 p.m. on Coeur d’Alene Press Web site. (I hear from my sources on the rez that leadership and tribe members are outraged by the racist comments attracted by the tragic shooting death of Tim Wolfe.)
Update: The Press finally deleted this statement 2 hours after it was posted.
PatrickH on May 12 at 4:20 p.m.
DFO,
Do your sources know if anyone from the Tribe is going to make any kind of comment or stand regarding the Press printing these kind of comments on its website?
Nick_Adams on May 12 at 4:21 p.m.
It would appear that now that the Legislature has adjourned, Dick Harwood has time to post on the CDA Press.
nslopeofw on May 12 at 4:32 p.m.
Here is another example of racism at its finest. Just because murders and theft were committed by white’s a hundred years (or more) ago, these racists think whites still think this way. Sorry to disappoint your racist beliefs, but no one i know had anything to do with those crimes, or thinks that way.
Its just as much racism to continue to hate the white man now for those crimes, as it is to hate anyone for racial reasons. As long as people keep the hate alive, it will continue.
It takes away from this tragedy when racists post crap like this. The sad fact is that a bright young man (regardless of his race) was killed by someone who fights his battles hiding behind a weapon. The outcome of this should be mandatory life in prison, if not the death penalty for these type of crimes. People would not do this if they knew the outcome was their own death.
Sisyphus on May 12 at 4:32 p.m.
Of course the comments are only the tip of the bigotry iceberg.
Sisyphus on May 12 at 4:35 p.m.
nslopeofw, I dunno if I agree with using reason against murderers. They don’t demonstrate much capacity for it. That deterrent hasn’t really worked so far and most civilized countries have abandoned the death penalty with no resulting uptick in the crime.
DFO on May 12 at 4:38 p.m.
>Do your sources know if anyone from the Tribe is going to make any kind of comment or stand regarding the Press printing these kind of comments on its website? — Patrick<
I definitely know that the tribe is monitoring the Press threads closely.
OrangeTV on May 12 at 5:04 p.m.
It’s such an annoying situation. The part of me that’s all for freedom of speech is worried about the Press just auto-deleting all the hate away because it’s never a good idea to take the “just ignore it and it will go away” approach toward racism. The vile comments are a reminder that there’s still a lot of work to be done in our area to drag the old-fashioned mentalities into the present tense and hope they learn how to respect others along the way. Some will never change their minds, and will die bitter and sad.
If we just turn off the acrid, narrow-minded comments, I’m afraid the racism would just fester and grow in the dark. That comments board shines a light on these morons and gives people a chance to confront them and hopefully get across the message that they speak for a very small minority of Idahoans.
Unfortunately,in an anonymous forum, these cockroaches seem immune to the spotlight and don’t easily scatter. i’d love to see what those trolls would do if someone traced their IP addresses and published their comments under their real names. They’d shrivel up like slugs in salt.
On the other hand, the Press is a private enterprise and they have every legal right to remove anything they want and the fact that they let certain vile things stay while deleting more innocent stuff makes you wonder where they really stand on the issue of racism/homophobia/cali-phobia etc. Those comments make me want to puke, but does that mean they should be just censored out of existence?
In this case, I’m going to say “Yes”. Delete that garbage. Like I said before, if the entire Press comments section disappeared it would make me sigh with relief.
Dennis on May 12 at 5:22 p.m.
Well,,,, it looks like someone got to the “Mess”. The story line that generated those hateful comments is no longer posted.
Dennis on May 12 at 5:47 p.m.
DFO,,, They deleted the entire story!!!
BayviewBob on May 12 at 9:18 p.m.
Since the comments are anonymous, no one really knows who is posting or for what reason.
Remember 1992?
When I lived in Oregon at the time, the following story was MAJOR news for weeks!
Turns out it was all lies.
“THE PERFECT VICTIM
BY CARYN B. BROOKS
Tolerance was the buzzword of 1992, when political correctness dominated college campuses and Measure 9 menaced Oregon’s gays and lesbians. Enter a county corrections officer named Azalea Cooley. As an African-American lesbian confined to a wheelchair due to brain cancer, she earned a diversity hat trick. On May 3, she reported a swastika and the word “n–-r” ( word changed by Huckleberries, not part of original quote ) spray-painted on the Southeast Portland home she shared with girlfriend and fellow officer Susan Soen. Soon came a string of nasty notes and burning crosses. Portland peaceniks went ballistic: The attacks on Cooley represented the intolerance loose in the land, and the police seemed powerless to prevent them. A drum-thumping Cooley (pictured above) led a “Take a Stand Against Hate” rally in November, and the police vowed to catch the unknown hatemongers. But authorities were stumped after close surveillance failed to deter further attacks. On the eve of the rally, officers filmed the house without telling Cooley and Soen. On video, the supposedly disabled Cooley crept into the yard on her own two feet to set fire to a cross. In November, she confessed to committing 21 of the acts herself and faking brain cancer as well. She was sentenced to two years’ probation, two months of home confinement and psychiatric counseling. When we last tracked down Cooley, she was living in California and working with the mentally ill.”
I watched that whole story unfold on TV for weeks, Every night it dominated the local news.
When the truth finally came out, it went away fast. Really fast. Just saying!
I am not saying there is no racism in Idaho, I am saying there isn’t any more here than anywhere else!
And some “racism” is fabricated to promote some people’s agendas.
And I would like to end with, I do not condone any posts like those, for any reason.
It’s all very wrong.
BayviewBob on May 12 at 9:24 p.m.
Yahoo! tried un-moderated comments and they could not handle it!
lol
Cda Press should learn from the big boys mistakes.
nslopeofw on May 12 at 10:35 p.m.
Sisyphus, your right, but it would still feel pretty good knowing these losers are no longer a part of our world. For me, the death penalty is more like revenge. There is no reason the dirtbag Joseph Duncan should be allowed to live, in fact, he should die a slow painful death at the hands of Steve Groene. The same goes for this POS. His crime may not be as horrific as Duncans, none the less, he deserves to die. He apparently has no regard for human life, why should we care about his? Bring back public execution. At least it’ll make some of us feel better.
Nick_Adams on May 13 at 12:03 a.m.
@nslopeofw: First, please get a more user-friendly pseudonymn.
Second, it’s disheartening to read that you’d feel better if someone else was dead. I don’t know anyone who’ll shed tears when Duncan finally gets the needle (or even the guy who killed the young man this weekend), but I believe it diminishes us all as a society to take pleasure in the killing of another human being—even those we find loathesome. We should be better than the worst in our society.
Nick_Adams on May 13 at 1:19 a.m.
@Bayviewbob: What’s your point? Are you saying that because others have feigned racism, we should ignore racist posts? Are you saying that because there are racists across the county, we should ignore it in our own backyard?
Please, clarify. You say you don’t condone racist posts, yet you went out of your way to find an obscure example of where the racism claimed was untrue. Either intentionally or unintentionally, you’ve attempted to dismiss all the racist posts on the messpool by implying their may be an inflammatory agenda behind them. Nice.
Charlie on May 13 at 7:25 a.m.
BayviewBob,
I forgot about that story. It probably has happeneds more than we know. Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley!
JarodS on May 15 at 12:12 a.m.
Does anyone else find it odd that — even though it’s been taken down at the Coeur d’Alene Press — the comment will live on forever on this blog? I thought this was an offensive comment. Why is it still up here? To spite the Press? Or to stir-up racist thoughts among posters?
DFO on May 15 at 12:46 a.m.
>Why is it still up here? To spite the Press? Or to stir-up racist thoughts among posters? — JarodS.<
Actually, newby JarodS; it’ll stay up on this site to remind the Press that it’s being monitored for this kind of stuff. The Press has a long history of allowing such comments. This blog, I believe, has served a role in finally embarrassing the Press into doing something about the hate comments.
JarodS on May 15 at 11:24 a.m.
Well, it seems that whether it’s a hate comment on the Press or a hate comment on here … it’s still a hate comment and shouldn’t be published on either one. Seems the appropriate thing to do isn’t necessarily a public shaming. The comment is just as offensive no matter where it’s published. But it seems the Press did the right thing by finally removing it. Not here though. It’s allowed to live here.
JarodS on May 15 at 11:46 a.m.
I’m not trying to be antagonistic here but I am new and I am just trying to provide an outsider’s perspective on this. The point of this blog post seems to be more of a shallow “gotcha” than anything else. This post makes it the racist comment seem less important than the opportunity to pull a “gotcha” on the Press.
DFO on May 15 at 12:07 p.m.
JarodS; you’ve made the point. Now, it’s time to move on. Otherwise, the vast majority of us will quickly decide that you’re point is to be antagonistic. I’m undecided. In the blogosphere, something that happened yesterday is older than yesterday’s newspaper. You need to get onto the topic of the day. Then, we’ll have a better idea whether you want to fit in or throw elbows.