On
her Facebook wall, Cindy asks, “Am I hopelessly out of touch? Having dinner at the Rusty Moose in Airway Heights — not fine dining but not fast food — and I'm wondering why grown men think it's okay to eat dinner with their baseball caps on? My boys know better.
Question: Is it OK to eat dinner at a restaurant with a ballcap on?
Gary D Rhodes on January 24 at 9:51 a.m.
Yes.
As long as you’re having a hot dog at Avista Stadium.
Eman on January 24 at 9:57 a.m.
While a hat at the table is a bummer try going to Church and see what some people wear, THAT is even worse
Cabbage Boy on January 24 at 10:01 a.m.
Common decency is removing your hat inside a building. So unless it is as Gary sez, eating in a ball cap seems rather wrong.
DFO on January 24 at 10:03 a.m.
@ Eman re: “try going to Church and see what some people wear, THAT is even worse … ”
I’m really curious about this one. Are you saying that people at church wear ballcaps? Or are you saying that they dress inappropriately for church. This might be an interesting front-page topic. Please elaborate …
scootermom on January 24 at 10:10 a.m.
I’m less concerned about people wearing ballcaps than people who can’t put down their cellphones and continue to send and receive text messages while dining with others.
Eman on January 24 at 10:12 a.m.
Dave while I have seen ball caps at Mass I’m more dismayed by some of the clothes the ladies wear. So yeah, I was speaking in terms of overall clothing at Church services in general and how sometimes it is inappropriate. To the point of, what were they thinking!
Usually it’s young girls but boys don’t get odff the hook when they look like Bums either.
Nothing against Bums as they are welcome indeed but I think you get what I’m trying to say.
Cindy_H on January 24 at 10:15 a.m.
A friend wrote on my FB wall that what she found even more disturbing is men who leave their caps on during the National Anthem.
I’ve got to say I’ve never seen that happen, but if it did in my vincinity, I might offer to remove the fella’s cap for him.
florined on January 24 at 10:16 a.m.
I might ask why men where baseball caps at all. Most of the time it’s not for warmth or to keep the rain out of their eyes or the sun off their scalp. I suspect it has something to do with hiding the real person, similar to the hoodie.
JeanieSpokane on January 24 at 10:17 a.m.
Cell phones for sure! I’m with Scootermom. I hate cell phones and then there’s Bluetooth and it doesn’t matter where you are, some idiots are talking to themselves like they have voices in their head - and I realize they do - but do I have to be subjected to one-half of the conversation at the table next to them, or on the bus, or in the elevator? And, yes, church.
Eman on January 24 at 10:21 a.m.
florined, wow thats going a bit deep your making the assumption that men are that complicated.
The only truth to what you are saying is perhaps a man wears a hat to “hide” his bald head but beyond that i don’t know.
However it’s a perfect cure for a bad hair day and men have that go to device :)
moscow_minidoka on January 24 at 10:27 a.m.
“I might ask why men where baseball caps at all.”
I wear a baseball cap when I can’t get my hair to behave. Or when it’s windy. Or when I’ve been cycling and I have helmet-hair. Or when I’m working in the yard and don’t want the sweat running into my eyes.
There are lots of excellent reasons to wear a hat.
Eman on January 24 at 10:27 a.m.
Moscow, we have a BINGO.
moscow_minidoka on January 24 at 10:28 a.m.
I’ll join the “cellphones are more annoying than ballcaps” faction.
nic on January 24 at 10:29 a.m.
What’s more offensive? The hat, or the hair underneath?
Cindy_H on January 24 at 10:35 a.m.
It could be that there’s NO hair underneath.
Hence the cap.
BethB on January 24 at 11:27 a.m.
Hey - as someone who is single and periodically dines alone, I think the cell phone prejudice is a little unfair. I get permission from the person on the phone to eat while talking, and I don’t speak any louder than I would if the person was across the table from me - in fact, I try to speak more quietly so as not to annoy the people around me, and/or get those all-knowing dirty looks from them (they who had the family physically close enough to invite along in person). Why do you feel that I should not be allowed to have dinner conversation just because I’m by myself? And what are you doing anyway, listening to my half of the conversation? (Jeanie, you know I love you, and you can listen in if you want, but don’t be too upset that the conversation isn’t making enough sense for you to follow more closely!)
scootermom on January 24 at 11:32 a.m.
My objection wasn’t directed as those dining alone, but those dining with others.
BethB on January 24 at 11:36 a.m.
@Scootermom: Oh. Fair enough. Never mind… :)
If someone HAS to take a call when others at the table with them, they should make it short and/or leave the table while they take it.
Arpie on January 24 at 11:38 a.m.
After a day of skiing I will often lift my hat and let my family and other tablemates vote whether I should keep it on or take it off. They usually vote on.
This summer I was in the restaurant at Many Glacier Lodge, one of the nicest national Park lodges or restaurants anywhere. Glacier Park is full of hikers. It was nice to see the effort people made to look presentable while on vacation and sweating all day on the trails. All except one ofe in the center of the room- wearing a Dallas cowboy shirt with the sleeves cut off and a Boise state hat. I was not proud to be an Idahoan .
etorreal on January 24 at 12:14 p.m.
@ eman - when I see young people arrive at church on Sunday morning (without parents in tow) looking like they just slept in the clothes they have on, I am thrilled to see they are “walking the walk” when it comes to their faith. I don’t think God is as picky about a dress code as we might be, plus I am sure he would give a “free pass” to anyone wearing a “Cardinals” hat.
jdanmike on January 24 at 1:31 p.m.
E.T.- but more so to someone wearing an ‘Angels’ hat!
etorreal on January 24 at 1:34 p.m.
@ jdanmike - well played, sir.
Eman on January 24 at 2:57 p.m.
Eddie I hear that defense often when ever this topic comes up in conversation. “God doesn’t mind what I wear” well no I expect he doesn’t, and I wonder then that it gives the impression that God is lucky that that person even attended because you know, to get “dress up” for church would require effort and well if I gotta go through all that a person might not go.
Ya know we get dressed up for a lot of things that certainly pale to God and we go out of our way sometimes, but for Church, well He’s actually lucky I”m even coming. And while it’s easy to assume that perhaps God doesn’t mind what we wear, we don’t know that and it could be He does.
Point being going through effort in presenting yourself for worship of whatever you want to call it sends a message to whatever your getting ready to do.
We dress for an interview why? It reflects on commitment, desire to please, sure it’s easy to make things easy on ourselves but if you believe that God created you and everything else wouldn’t that be an even better walking the walk and not just playing church that many do?
Arpie on January 24 at 3:02 p.m.
Surely for the next two weeks cheese heads are exempt.
Cabbage Boy on January 24 at 3:15 p.m.
Eman, to sum it up, God doesn’t need us to look presentable, but we do.
Why are the churches of old so magnificent? Why “church clothes”, why the incense. … Why bother putting that much effort into something that God doesn’t need? Because it shows where OUR heart it at.
etorreal on January 24 at 4:35 p.m.
@ eman & CB - I respect your comments, but I think God knows where our heart is at regardless of our dress.
Cindy_H on January 24 at 4:57 p.m.
What an interesting turn on this thread.
While I encourage my sons to wear “church” clothes on Sunday morning, I can’t help but thinking about where Christ went and to whom he taught. It wasn’t in lofty, ornate temples, and it wasn’t to the well-heeled crowds.
He taught on hillsides and along dusty roads and welcomed folks to come just as they were.
Shouldn’t we do the same?
Arpie on January 24 at 7:08 p.m.
I once stood in church behind a teenage girl that had “Juicy” written across her butt on her sweatpants. It was hard to concentrate that day. I wished I had changed seats.
kamm on January 24 at 7:34 p.m.
As long as the clothing isn’t a distraction to other, I suppose there is a wide scope of appropriate choices. However when I have to look elsewhere because they present a ‘near occasion of sin’ (a Catholic thing) that isn’t appropriate attire.
On the 1st point, hats should be off when indoors unless it’s a tradition of your religion or an unusual condition. I don’t think ball caps would fit that bill for the worship example.
Cabbage Boy on January 25 at 7:42 a.m.
Cindy, that is a common argument, but one must remember, we are not Jesus. He came down and assumed our humble humanity. That was God’s gift to us. How we react to that is our gift to him.
Think of the poor widow giving two small coins. She gave all she had. God is not hurt or injured by our poor showing, we are. You can get thrown out of a highfalutin’ restaurant for failure to follow the dress code. Yet we think it doesn’t matter how we present ourselves on Sunday. Priorities.
Eman on January 25 at 10:06 a.m.
Where was Christ when his parents lost him? In a Church, His Fathers house, so yes he taught everyewhere. He also turned over some tables someplace as well in some kind of building.
Not trying to bust your chops Cindy, just making a point.