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maddog

maddog Dec. 7, 2017, 5:49 p.m.

You will be missed Rich, I look forward to reading you Eli


ptown guy

ptown guy Dec. 6, 2017, 7 a.m.

Rich is part of the reason I've been a subscriber to the Spokesman for a few decades. Rich: Hope this frees up time to spend even more time outside.


traaveler

traaveler Dec. 5, 2017, 1:01 p.m.

Rich, you will be missed. Eli, welcome you have some great shoes to fill. We will follow you on SR Outdoors page.


Carter Jake

Carter Jake Nov. 30, 2017, 3:23 p.m.

Can you get close enough with a 500mm lens?


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 28, 2017, 11:22 p.m.

I've skied all of them within 90 minutes of Spokane. There are some very nice nice mountains, however, I don't think that Spokane qualifies as a ski town!


Scottm_CLE

Scottm_CLE Nov. 28, 2017, 7:14 p.m.

Good article and I Agree!! Spokane is great for skiing and boarding! And lots of other stuff too, frankly for the most part (ex potholes and a dope-growing Councilwoman - Stratton..) it’s coming along nicely.


CougarGold

CougarGold Nov. 28, 2017, 5:59 p.m.

Rich - A couple of points to ponder. First, John Stifter is a former editor of POWDER Magazine and is now the Executive Producer of Powder Productions. He is a Spokane native so has a bias toward Spokane. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that with his experience, he has such a positive view of Spokane. Second point; he grew up skiing at Schweitzer and therefore has a bias toward it, which is also great. One last point; given Schweitzer has the highest lift prices in the region, it's still incredibly lesser cost than the expensive areas that are making Spokane a bargain spot for skiers.


Smithie

Smithie Nov. 28, 2017, 5:40 p.m.

Sandpoint, Idaho is well known right now for the beautiful views and the spectacular skiing, but that might all disappear once the smelter gets put in at Newport :(


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 22, 2017, 6:53 p.m.

Must be about the third species used to try and close the experiment station. Grizzlies and wolves failed to stick, guess they were bound to find a way, after all these welfare groups don't have any thing else to do.


Timmy Miller

Aleggra

Aleggra Nov. 18, 2017, 9:37 p.m.

Someone should intervene in Idaho. Killing magestic animals to save a few cows that pollute the environment is idiocy. Tourists don't want to see cows in Idaho. And they won't want to come if there's a Huntavirus plague, that's for sure. Educate yourself on being ecologically responsible. Wolves serve an ecological purpose. Just ask the Europeans. They killed all of their wildlife & the rodent population flourished which caused outbreaks of plague. Is that what you want?


Aleggra

Aleggra Nov. 18, 2017, 9:24 p.m.

Wolves keep the rat and mice population down, thus stops rodents from spreading deadly Huntavirus in Idaho. Wolves and coyotes are rodent predators. There's no cure for this virus. Would you prefer an outbreak of Huntavirus when the wolf population is decimated in Idaho and we're overrun with Huntavirus cases? Spring will be here & rat, mice droppings once inhaled outdoors or around houses spread this deadly virus. Death rate is very high since there's no cure.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 18, 2017, 7:11 p.m.

Who has claimed cows are ecological needed? Wildlife biologist across the planet and Washington state use cows to ecologically benefit wildlife habitat, something Aldo Leopold taught.

Death loss from predators is a fraction of the cost wolves cause livestock producers in areas where wolves kill livestock. Wolves are more likely to kill cows than any other predator. Beef cow death loss from all causes in less than 4%.
Perhaps you should go back and read swellswell's BS claims, they fit well with your BS claims.


WolvesRbetterthanRednecks

WolvesRbetterthanRednecks Nov. 18, 2017, 6:30 p.m.

There is no science based research showing Washington needs cows for any ecological benefit.
There is no research showing cows have helped reduce car crashes with deer in any area with wolves.
99.73% of death losses are non predator related, so there's your livelihood threat, NOT predators.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 18, 2017, 5:14 p.m.

Once again your stupidity is showing.
Spokesfolk's comment was to prove grey and gray were used interchangeable, after you claimed there was only one way to spell gray.

Now all we have to do is figure out what a "Gary" wolf would be. DA


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 18, 2017, 5:09 p.m.

When the people get tired of the judicial branch over reach they use the legislative branch as it was intended.
As you've had your hand out for government subsidies for many more years than I have. All I hear is more parrot talk.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 18, 2017, 4:36 p.m.

The judicial branch is meant to balance the executive and legislative branches of government. That is why the founding fathers created all three. That is also why the wolf haters pass riders that do not allow judicial review of those legislative efforts. To circumvent the legal process. As somebody who has had his hand out for governmental subsidies since the day he was born, you would know a whole lot about that gimme process.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 18, 2017, 4:30 p.m.

Modern science (the last 40 years -think Dr. Nowak and 1975) recognizes three species of Wolves that inhabit North America. Canis Lupus (Gray Wolf), Canis Lupus bailyei (mexican Wolf) and Canis Rufus (red Wolf). The Gray Wolf is the only one of those three species that has ever inhabited Washington State. This post is in regards to your last post disputing that Gary Wolves are native to Washington State. Like Montana Boy, quoting outdated articles and science is a no go here and everyplace else.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 18, 2017, 4:24 p.m.

Advocating poaching while not wanting the public to have access to public agency files and information. And you wonder why there is such a lack of trust in the public process? That "worthless dog" has more value to many people than the rapists, meth heads and others that you describe and I can get all the information I desire on those folks as most public access laws don't protect criminals from public exposure except when it comes to things like killing Wolves. Shameful and totally unacceptable!


deedwan

deedwan Nov. 18, 2017, 1:31 p.m.

They should be barred from ever coming to Montana again...for any purpose. And yes, charge them to the full extent of the law.


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 18, 2017, 9:43 a.m.

Predators, including wolves, are responsible for CWD!!! Nope, no prob with comp, what's your excuse!!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...


Square_Root

Square_Root Nov. 17, 2017, 11:17 p.m.

Still having a problem with reading comprehension, I see. Your article states that wolves are integral in controlling coyote populations and reducing Lyme disease, as well as containing the spread of CWD.


Jeff Martin

Jeff Martin Nov. 17, 2017, 3:35 p.m.

No plea deals for these two low life's please. Let them feel the full weight of the law and use them as an example. I hope Washington state reciprocates and takes all hunting privileges away for life.


Immer Treue

Immer Treue Nov. 17, 2017, 3:30 p.m.

Time to drop the hammer on all such illegal killing.


faja215

faja215 Nov. 17, 2017, 2:11 p.m.

that has to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard to justify the wolves. Go back to Pennsylvania and take your wolves and wolf loving group there, guess what, they wont be accepted there either. do you understand that 3-4 cows a year is a huge financial burden? if that is a cow (a female breading cow, for you incompetent minds), that is potentially 10 offspring if she breeds every year, while she is breeding, her offspring is breeding too. so that one bred cow/wolf food is really worth at the sale price of 2k per cow, in 10 years 20 thousand for just that one cow, not counting each offspring. so if you want to donate your money to these farmers and ranchers for their "insignificant loss" (which is likely more than most peoples salary in a year), feel free to donate. give me your yearly salary and ill cheer on your hippy loving wolf ideas, until then, Pennsylvania is still waiting for you


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 17, 2017, 1:28 p.m.

WOW a true believer.
There is no science based research showing Washington needs wolves for any ecological benefit.
There is no research showing wolves have helped reduce car crashes with deer in any area with wolves.
If the loss of 3-4 thousand is so small to you feel free to donate that amount every year. The majority of those cattle killed by wolves are killed on private land. Private lands where over 70% of the nations wildlife lives.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 17, 2017, 1:19 p.m.

How so?


swellswell

swellswell Nov. 17, 2017, 12:35 p.m.

Biodiversity matters. Wolves have an important place in our ecosystem - they help keep the population of large mammals such as white tail deer, mule deer, elk, and big horn sheep within limits that the environment can sustain. In Pennsylvania, the number one killer of white tail deer is cars - and that is very bad. People who hit deer can lose control of their vehicles and sustain serious, life-threatening injuries very easily. If they are lucky to only have a minor crash, they still have to pay to have their vehicle repaired (or let their insurance do so with the subsequent rise in insurance rates). And now larger cities, such as Pittsburgh are having problems with deer within the city limits walking down major thoroughfares, posing serious traffic and safety hazards. And before you ask - yes Pennsylvania has a hunting season with a two-deer limit.

Ranchers complain that they lose so-o-o much livestock to wolves. In reality, they rarely lose more than three or four cows to wolves in a year - and they normally run hundreds of cattle per herd. I have little sympathy for them - they also want to get rid of bears that prey on their cattle (they don't lose that many animals to bears either), coyotes (they don't lose animals to coyotes), buffalo (who compete with ranchers for land), and anything else that is inconvenient for them.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 17, 2017, 11:41 a.m.

Another extremist, Idaho has the second largest gray wolf population in the lower 48. Wolf densities greater than Yellowstone in many parts of the state and still not happy. Crying that Idaho has nothing better to do with it's time and money than fight another lawsuit over an animal. An animal that doesn't have any large benefits to living in the state other than making you all giddy.

How are things going Ralph?
I thought you and your's claimed that with Idaho's hunting and trapping wolves would be relisted long before now. What happened?


GoEagles

GoEagles Nov. 17, 2017, 11:37 a.m.

Sounds like a situation that is likely to go wrong and get someone shot.


faja215

faja215 Nov. 17, 2017, 9:42 a.m.

we have rapists, meth heads, and high crime rates, and the biggest concern is a worthless dog dying. get over it wolf lovers, they are gonna die somewhere and when they impede on the livelihood of ranchers and potentially attack a hunter, down they go. just proves more of a point to the theory of shoot shovel and shut up. i cant wait until these wolves move into the neighborhoods and start picking off you tree huggers yappy dogs and cats, then you will be "crying wolf". this is whats wrong with america, worry about stuff that matters


Donny Bravo

Donny Bravo Nov. 17, 2017, 9:27 a.m.

Well jackassalope, that would make for an interesting conversation, now wouldn't it? Why would you even make a comment like that?


Bango

Bango Nov. 16, 2017, 7:17 p.m.

I guess being a talented self-made man isn't enough. Best to work for someone else 9 to 5!


Bango

Bango Nov. 16, 2017, 7:15 p.m.

I'm from Idaho, and say hurray for out-state-organizations; and I hope some want to intervene in Idaho too.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 16, 2017, 6:55 p.m.

Spoken like a true blinded by love, wolf lover. Big bold statement lacking any facts backing up the bold statement.


Dee Wolf

Dee Wolf Nov. 16, 2017, 6:06 p.m.

Rich Landers is a MORON!


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 16, 2017, 5:14 p.m.

Thanks to the wolves CWD is back! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 16, 2017, 3:05 p.m.

I hope that they throw the book at them! Based upon history, I doubt that much will happen to them!


jackalope

jackalope Nov. 16, 2017, 1:15 p.m.

You may run and hide. Maybe the police will get there in time. good luck.


jackalope

jackalope Nov. 16, 2017, 1:13 p.m.

I hope you never encounter armed intruders on your property.


spokesfolk

spokesfolk Nov. 16, 2017, 9:24 a.m.

When a collaboration can be reached in local/state government over such a divisive issue, outside interests shouldn't be filing suits in all but extreme cases.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 16, 2017, 7:29 a.m.

Now put those photo's out in the brush and tall grass and see how your average wolf lover does with the identification.
The only way to be fully sure without several minutes of watching is to be poking the body with your toe. As luck has it I have that advantage.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 16, 2017, 7:18 a.m.

Lawsuits are a form on intimidation along with a financial and resource drain on agency's.
It does look good for these groups when they have their hand out grubbing for money like a corner panhandler.


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 15, 2017, 1:25 p.m.

It's also possible that you have a brain! However, anecdotal evidence doesn't prove that you have one!!


jumpermso71

jumpermso71 Nov. 15, 2017, 9:03 a.m.

ooh, ooh, pick me for the jury!! Looked like he was just helping to get the truck unstuck!


Square_Root

Square_Root Nov. 15, 2017, 2:39 a.m.

I know, right? That's why I always run over jay walkers.


Square_Root

Square_Root Nov. 15, 2017, 2:35 a.m.

Isn't it possible to have more than one neighbor? Reading comprehension, Timmy.


Square_Root

Square_Root Nov. 15, 2017, 2:26 a.m.

Big deal. I have a carpenter square and it has 90 degrees.


Dazzeetrader1980

Dazzeetrader1980 Nov. 15, 2017, 12:59 a.m.

Very sad when trespassers do this.


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 14, 2017, 8:17 p.m.

The poachers were the neighbors!!! They shot the cow out of season and parked on the neighbors property so that they could get closer to the downed elk!!


Tim Note

Tim Note Nov. 14, 2017, 7:13 p.m.

God bless your little heart and narrow mind. I have literally made a fortune over the years defending people in court with your level of finely attuned dispute resolution skills. Keep it up, I need a new duck boat.


AmericanMom

AmericanMom Nov. 14, 2017, 6:56 p.m.

We live rural too and gunshot whiz by when we are outside and people are hunting close by. The gunshots are at night too and that means poachers. I'm with tractor man.


Cal Clausen

Cal Clausen Nov. 14, 2017, 6:19 p.m.

You go tractor man, I'd do the same thing... if I had a big enough tractor


Terry Lone Wolf Swisse

Terry Lone Wolf Swisse Nov. 14, 2017, 6:02 p.m.

Not much the law will do about it bravo donnie


Terry Lone Wolf Swisse

Terry Lone Wolf Swisse Nov. 14, 2017, 5:59 p.m.

Bet they don't trespass or poach another elk again, if the police don't do their job somebody has to stop them.


Donny Bravo

Donny Bravo Nov. 14, 2017, 5:55 p.m.

Gun owners who say stupid crap like - People with guns on my property would have bigger problems than a mashed truck.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 14, 2017, 5:20 p.m.

There's some good data out there showing public land grazers pay the same amount for their grass as private land grazers. There are more cost than the AUM bill.
Why do national park users holler and whine about park issues when the fees don't cover administrating cost?
There is also some good data out there showing 85% of leks are around wetlands and 80% of those wetlands are on private lands. Sage grouse like most wildlife need private lands and private land owners like ranchers need more grass.
Make it political if you want.


al

al Nov. 14, 2017, 5:03 p.m.

The tractor man was the land owner that the truck was on. The poachers were on his neihbors property.


jackalope

jackalope Nov. 14, 2017, 4:30 p.m.

As a matter of fact, it is. What's your problem?


Donny Bravo

Donny Bravo Nov. 14, 2017, 4:25 p.m.

I'd be surprised if the offender (truck owner) didn't press charges against the landowner.


Donny Bravo

Donny Bravo Nov. 14, 2017, 4:24 p.m.

Is your land posted as no trespassing? Whata jackalope.


jackalope

jackalope Nov. 14, 2017, 4:21 p.m.

You are a twink. This was on private property. People with guns on my property would have bigger problems than a mashed truck.


Tim Note

Tim Note Nov. 14, 2017, 3:37 p.m.

Smart! Way to commit a felony, 1st Degree Malicious Mischief, in order to stop someone who has committed gross misdemeanors. I suppose that is way easier than just taking down the license plate number and phoning it in.


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 14, 2017, 1:40 p.m.

Good for the landowner!! Poaching is never right! The penalties are usually a slap on the wrist or get thrown out of court. Being the neighbor might make it rough though!


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 14, 2017, 10:25 a.m.

Don't feel bad slamdunk with a little work you can get a degree just like george and me.


slamdunk

Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 14, 2017, 7:05 a.m.

Let's be honest George has never worked a full time real job. It took him 11 years to get a four year degree. Mostly he runs around telling the rest of us that we shouldn't harvest any renewable resources.


clearwater1950

clearwater1950 Nov. 13, 2017, 6:49 p.m.

Livestock operators who graze public lands claim to be major stakeholders and demand the lions share of the chairs at the negotiating table when it comes to public land issues. In truth, they should not be a major stakeholder because they pay so little for the privilege to graze their cattle on OUR public lands. The current fee is 1.67$ per cow/calf pair/month (https://www.blm.gov/press-r.... According to the government, it takes about 4.50$/cow/calf/month just to cover the cost of administrating their grazing permits. The low fee is political favoritism at it's best and a political scam at it's worse. But...that aside....the Sage Grouse Conservation plan would restrict grazing....so ranchers hollor and whine.....BUT THE VALUE of that grazing forgone to protect/conserve the bird for those of us WHO OWN the public lands is, in fact, a pittance. The grazing revenue given up by the public owners is not even a rounding value in the BLM and Forest Service's budget. So, why do they command such an outlandishly loud voice in public land issues? Politics it is...once again.


faja215

faja215 Nov. 12, 2017, 1:22 p.m.

do you think those cows wanted to be the leather on your clothes, shoes, etc. you would be better off wearing a leaf for clothes so you don't hurt the poor cows. they are a source of livelihood and the wolves are ruining that. the funny thing is when a cougar bear or wolf shows up on your door and takes your little yapping mut you call a dog, you will be raising holy hell about how terrible that was. the wolves are killers and don't belong here, they lost that war years ago. the only fault of this rancher was that he told fish and game, he should have shot a few more dug a big hole and if they had a collar, throw that in a river. smoke a pack a day, and i'm not referring to cigarettes.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 12, 2017, 10:22 a.m.

One thing about doodoo she has no problem being the fool.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 12, 2017, 10:10 a.m.

Tell yourself whatever you need to Immer as you try and push those wolves back up on that pedestal above all other animals.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 12, 2017, 10 a.m.

"As it turns out, he didn't have to."
Can't even see the hypocrisy of that statement, your entire argument is in hindsight.


Immer Treue

Immer Treue Nov. 12, 2017, 8:19 a.m.

Ah, just like the other conjecturer. The wolf is not, nor ever has been my master. My point of view about the wolf is that they belong on the landscape. Your last sentence above is indicative that you think for others. You continue to perceive only what fits your paradigm. If you want to look at yourself as the "enemy", that's your choice. Auf wiedersehen.


spokesfolk

spokesfolk Nov. 12, 2017, 7:43 a.m.

Do you commonly fire your rifle into the air?

I do kind of question the need for shooting the animal tho. But I wasn't there.


spokesfolk

spokesfolk Nov. 12, 2017, 7:41 a.m.

To bad these organizations aren't in the know.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...
"Mitochondrial DNA phylogeography and population history of the grey wolf canis lupus"

http://www.fauna-flora.org/...

http://wwf.panda.org/about_..."


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 12, 2017, 7:38 a.m.

"Plenty of range land available in the midwest,..." The delusion continues...
What happened to the cows are destructive, because the midwest was once some of the greatest wildlife habitat on the planet.
The hypocritical wolf lover can't provide a reasonable argument.
Again people who know a lot more about grazing and what is suitable lands for grazing have said these lands are suitable for grazing. No matter how many times you claim these lands are not suitable your claims will lack any credibility. Your knowledge of cattle is very close to zero.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 12, 2017, 7:31 a.m.

Pegged for sure, because anyone who's not a defender of wolves, in your minds, at all cost is the enemy. You can now go back to making excuses.
I'll always think for myself because I don't have to answer to any master unlike you and your master the wolf.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 12, 2017, 7:18 a.m.

Another racist comment what else would anyone expect.


Immer Treue

Immer Treue Nov. 11, 2017, 4:14 p.m.

Best think for yourself. He shot anyway, and as it turns out, he didnt have to. SkIp has you pegged.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 12:53 p.m.

And Wyatt_Earp and MB are the only two that have grenades in their SOP. Love to point fingers and level personal attacks almost every time. Gets very unproductive almost every time and that is really too bad.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 12:48 p.m.

OMG, are you responding to somebody else's post that isn't directed at you? Really? You said that wasn't allowed so I guess it's "do as I say, not as I do". Such a KOT you are. The bigot has spoken. Back to the rez for you!


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 12:44 p.m.

Yes, leave those roots (or find a more productive/ less destructive way to make a living, just like coal miners have). Those folks removed Wolves, Lions, Bears, Coyotes and many other wildlife species and replaced them with Cows and Sheep. Now that the wildlife is returning, the livestock needs to leave. Just like what happened to all of these animals.

Yes, I do not advocate for unethical and inhumane treatment of wildlife and that includes baiting, hounding, calling and trapping. Hunt and fish all you want but be ethical and humane when doing so.

Most of us have moved into the 21st century, now it's your turn.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 12:36 p.m.

Cows are put in many places that are not suitable. If you were put somewhere that was not suitable, against your will and had no way to go someplace else, that would be that, wouldn't it? Why are Cows any different? Humans decide where Cows live and humans put Cows in places where Cows don't want to be and where they do not belong (in heavily forested, mountainous areas for one).
Yes, livestock have been in Washington about 100 years or less and Wolves were exterminated in order to make that possible. Even people with degrees have deemed parts of Ferry County suitable for wildlife including predators. Cows have no ecological benefits what so ever in any place they can be put. They are an environmentally destructive animal in every place that they exist. The only reason they are allowed anywhere on this planet is because they are a source of food and clothing and that is their only purpose so it is best to put them in places where their negative impacts on the environment and wildlife species is minimized.

That does not include Ferry County as Ferry County is no longer suitable habitat because Wolves and other predator species are being restored after being wiped out by cattle farmers. The conflict between wild life and livestock can be mitigated by removing livestock or the wildlife. I and many others vote for livestock removal, not wildlife removal.

Plenty of range land available in the midwest, no need to go to South America. Cost is why folks like you raise livestock in places that are not suitable for that purpose, cheap land = cheaper costs. People like Montana Boy are small selfish thinkers who can't see the results past step one. All he cares about is what is best for him. Could care less about destroying wildlife populations and ecosystems simply so he can make a profit (just like the Koch brothers but on a much smaller level). Another hobby rancher wanting to play Cowboy while destroying that which belongs to all of us.

Yep, 1.25% is small potatoes. Little livestock production in Washington. Destroying wildlife populations and the environment just isn't worth it.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 11, 2017, 11:51 a.m.

I see now Carter is back peddling quite rapidly. Too bad it too late.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 11, 2017, 11:40 a.m.

This comment brought to you by someone who thinks your race, sex, origin and sexual preference should matter.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 11, 2017, 11:36 a.m.

Try reading the article before commenting so as to not sound like your regular DA self. The cow was on private property. Cows do not wander around in steep mountainous terrain it's not in their nature.
Even then people with degrees have deemed parts of Ferry county suitable for grazing. An area that has not had wolves for more than 70 years. An area where the return of wolves will have little to zero ecological benefits. Something proven by science based research and you can't provide any research showing wolves will have any large benefits outside the national park setting.
Only the people who demand that wolves return are placing predators in direct conflict with livestock to further their agenda and then cry about the cost.
People like doodoo would rather the cattle raised in Washington were raised in places like Brazil where rain forest is burned in order to make up for demand of beef production lost in the US. People like doodoo are small selfish thinkers who can't see the results past step one. Small thinkers that think removing the cows will benefit wolves and wildlife but fail to look at the wildlife and ecosystems that will be impacted on a much larger level in more ecological sensitive areas like rain forest.

Love the comparison of 1.25% produced in WA to the 2% produced on a national state level. That's a major convincing point.


Montana Boy

Montana Boy Nov. 11, 2017, 11:09 a.m.

Now you're grasping at straws. Next time you're out put your rifle to your shoulder and point it 40 yards out, trajectory down. Yeah wolves commonly run from one human to another. Nice video out there where these wolves had been stalking him for a while.
Lastly, first rule of elk camp is don't shoot your gun unless your shooting an elk. Anyone shooting warning shots doesn't get asked to come back the next year.
As has been explained wolves almost always turn and run off when they sense something wrong as in the prey didn't run.


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 11, 2017, 9:15 a.m.

Good to hear about the helicopters! I hope they kill them all!! (In 1968, the concern had swung to worries of too few elk. The park changed to a more natural management style and from 1969-1994, elk numbers soared. Criticism then centered on elk destroying the park’s winter range.)
Now there is concern about brucellosis & they are talking about killing off numbers to help fight the disease! Not sure what your smokin!!! If you hear that they need a shooter for the helicopters, give them my name, I'll supply my own ammo!!


faja215

faja215 Nov. 11, 2017, 7:12 a.m.

the westside needs more like you, the ranchers that have homesteaded ferry county should leave their roots to accommodate the wolves? its people like you that probably voted to ban bear baiting and hound hunting too. here in the pacific northwest we hunt and fish, if you want the city life then please do us a favor and leave


Immer Treue

Immer Treue Nov. 11, 2017, 6:22 a.m.

Skip, some times I agree with you, sometimes not. Nothing wrong with argument. It's when the argument stalemates and the grenades are thrown back and forth. We can all agree to disagree about the topics. When any facsimile of dialogue bogs down, and things get personal, it's much easier to just ignore the commenter. Sometimes less is more.


Immer Treue

Immer Treue Nov. 11, 2017, 6:16 a.m.

If your less than 20% refers to Yellowstone, park managers have wanted that number of elk since the 60's. The helicopters are coming, and I wonder what sort of odds Vegas would give you on your ten year hunting prediction.


Immer Treue

Immer Treue Nov. 11, 2017, 6:13 a.m.

MB,
It goes the other way as well. In "reality" very few posters know the individual to who they comment. Many of us anonymous/androgynous pro-wolf commenters have been the focus of "who are they and where do they live".
We agree that it is best to keep them guessing, as the world skews toward the horribly sick, at times.

As far as johnroskelley's comment on "expertise" was spot on.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 3:42 a.m.

The Cow was probably wandering around in the woods, just like the picture above shows. That is mostly what Ferry County has. Steep, mountainous, heavily forested terrain. Ideal Wolf habitat and extremely poor livestock habitat. Washington produces less than 1.25% of the beef produced in the U.S. (source - www.cattelrange.com). Many of the cattle farmers in Washington are hobby ranchers and a large number also use public lands for cattle grazing.

The sooner we remove livestock from places where they are placed in direct conflict with predators, the better for tax payers, wildlife species and the environment.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 3:33 a.m.

Speaking from years of experience, MB just has to argue, bully and have the last word. That is SOP for MB.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 3:30 a.m.

Hopefully Wyatt_Earp's "Sam Lobo" persona has been taken down by Facebook as that is just more of the same dishonesty that Laurie is so well known for.


Skippadoodoo

Skippadoodoo Nov. 11, 2017, 3:27 a.m.

It's gray, not grey. And if the Gray Wolf is not native to Ferry County, what Wolf is? More Little Red Riding Hood propaganda from an intolerant, hatred filled individual.


Timmy Miller

Timmy Miller Nov. 10, 2017, 8:56 p.m.

I agree!! The whole idea of introducing wolves wasn't well thought out and has been a less than poor idea from the beginning! Of course this was all done on purpose thanks to the behind door dealings! With the elk population at less than 20% of what it was when the wolves were introduced in 1995. Within the next 10 years there won't be any hunting in the west!!


faja215

faja215 Nov. 10, 2017, 4:53 p.m.

It's too bad a whole pack wasn't attacking him, then we could have had a few more dead wolves and a few more elk and deer. they ought to give the shooter a marksmanship award. for all you wolf lovers (johnroskelley) you should do your research and see that the grey wolf isn't the native wolf in these parts anyways. but like most libs, you fell for what they media wants you to believe


wcougars

wcougars Nov. 10, 2017, 4:06 p.m.

Rented a Fire Lookout in Montana a few years back. It was a blast.


Immer Treue

Immer Treue Nov. 10, 2017, 3:52 p.m.

MB,
It's not hindsight. Why not a warning shot when the wolf was farther out, when he thought they were coyotes? All he did was raise his rifle and shoot. In worse case scenario, was he sure nobody was behind the purported attacking wolf?

You and I can go round and round on this. Is it constructive? This leads me back to my original comment that got me involved in this "discussion" and the only point I made was that the entry and exit holes did not match his scenario. At the time of the shot, the wolf was not coming straight at him.

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