I was going to write this up last night but, to be brutally honest, was too tired. So we’ll catch you up with the Cougar men’s basketball team, eight days before practice officially starts, now. Read on.
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• Watching Washington State run through a team workout – schools are allowed a varying amount of time between the start of classes and the beginning of practice to work with coaches – I was struck with how little some aspects of the Cougars’ schemes had changed. The returning players have talked about how comfortable they were, especially on the defensive end, and it was easy to see why. WSU is just tweaking what it did in the past, not rebuilding. Assistant coach Ben Johnson played a big teaching role on that end, and, besides a greater emphasis on ball pressure, you might not see a huge difference. Offensively, of course, you might see quite a bit as coach Ken Bone puts his stamp on the program. … But which Cougars will be on the court next Friday? Starting big DeAngelo Casto was sitting, his knee in a wrap. The knee had been drained this week and doctors found more fluid than they expected, so an MRI was done, Bone said. Though Casto has not experienced a bit of pain while playing – and he’s been on the court for a while – it was decided to take a precautionary step just to ensure he’ll be ready to go. The MRI results should be back today, but no one, including Casto, expects anything to be wrong. James Watson was out as well, still recuperating from his neck injury – the poor guy was wearing this tall neck brace the other day when we talked, which made it tough for the 6-foot-8 Watson to look down at the 5-10 me. He should be back soon. And Xavier Thames has not practiced recently either. The point guard has a NCAA issue. WSU sent the requested paperwork this week and Bone feels it will be cleared up in time for Thames to practice next week. … As we’ve mentioned before here, the Cougars will partner with the women’s team and hold their first Midnight Madness-like season-opening practice next Friday following the women’s volleyball game. You can find all the information here.
• Back to the court. A lot of you have posted here about how much you were looking forward to basketball. If it’s because you’re into basketball, like me, great. If it was because you believe the Cougars are going to challenge for the Pac-10 title, well, maybe I should share some thoughts about the challenges awaiting Bone’s first team. … The Cougars aren’t very big. And by big, I don’t mean tall, though Charlie Enquist is the only person more than 6-9 on the roster. There’s a lack of bulk. Besides Casto, who weighs 231 pounds, the rest of the inside players, all taller than 6-7, go 222, 217, 213, 205, 200 and 182. … Because of that lack of bulk, it could be tough for them to score inside. The Pac-10 is a physical league. Playing inside isn’t for the timid. And getting rebounds will have to be a team affair, and even then it won’t be easy to keep some of the conference’s bigs off the glass. … The guards, especially Klay Thompson, will have to be the centerpiece of the offense. You’ll be impressed with the improvements Thompson has made with his game. He’s worked hard on his ball handling, keeping his knees bent and the ball lower, allowing him to attack more. He’s going to be that much tougher to handle. But the rest of the outside players are unproven scorers at this level. From returnees Marcus Capers to Michael Harthun, through newcomers Thames, Reggie Moore and Anthony Brown, WSU needs to find a few players to count on out front. … Want to talk about young? Nik Koprivica is the only senior – the 6-6, 221-pound Koprivica will be called upon to rebound even more this season – and there are no juniors on the roster. There are 15 sophomores and freshmen, whether they redshirted or not, listed right now. And, as Koprivica said, with a new coach and mostly new staff, every player feels a little like a freshman right now.
• Those are the challenges. There are advantages, too. This is a good group of guys. It’s obvious they will work hard every day and will compete. Redshirt sophomore Abe Lodwick, who will play a lot more inside this season, has started to assume a leadership role. If everyone on the team works as hard as he does, this group will improve immensely as the year rolls on. But it could be a rough start. Nonconference foes such as Gonzaga, Kansas State and LSU will test a group just getting their feet underneath them. As I said, Thompson will be a force. Casto and Watson, if healthy, will add athleticism inside on the defensive end. Capers, Brown and Moore all have the tools to be strong defenders. Harthun has improved his shot – and the rest of his game. Enquist has improved every day since he walked on campus. Koprivica should thrive in Bone’s offensive system. Brock Motum is better than first impressions might indicate, and it looks as if he gets things done despite being rail thin at 6-9, 205-pounds. There is a corps here to build upon. It just might take awhile. We’ll keep you abreast of the progress.
• If you have young basketball players around, circle Saturday, Oct. 31 on your calendar. Yes, it’s Halloween. But from noon to 1:15 p.m., the Cougars are holding a free youth clinic for boys and girls in kindergarten through sixth grade. It will be in the basketball practice gym (PEB 146), just down the hall from the volleyball facility in Bohler. The registration is on-line only and you can do it here. There is also more information available here.
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• That’s it for now. We’ll be back this afternoon. Until then …
cougarman45 on October 08 at 9:48 a.m.
Hey Vince, how big were Robbie Cowgill and Caleb Forrest?
vinceg on October 08 at 10:37 a.m.
cougarman45:
Forrest weighed about 230 as an upperclassman while Cowgill played at around 215. Both played with Aron Baynes, who was always about 250.
mdrevniak on October 08 at 11:10 a.m.
Vince, I noticed in your second paragraph, when including the advantages, you left out Thames. With his NCAA issues, have you not had a good chance to see him in action? Just wondering as I know that most were very high on him and figured he would contribute immediately.
DeerLakeRon on October 08 at 12:01 p.m.
Basketball season and future should be fun to watch.
I have one thing that bothers me a little when you compare the two Programs BB and FB. Isn’t kinda wierd how everyone slams Doba for leaving the cupboard bare. But when you look at the gap in BB with only one senior and no juniors, why does everyone worship Tony. I will say at least he left us some talent and a good recruiting class, even though it is young.
A lot of similarities with very little upperclassmen and stacked with First and second year players. Besides the obvious the BB program was having success when TB left. But then again Doba was only one win from a bowl game the last two years.
ECoug01 on October 08 at 12:31 p.m.
Well our football team is “slow” according to all sources.. I would LOVE to see a comparison of 40 times from 2001 team and this team. I think it’s a lame excuse. When you are constantly out of position and taking bad angles you look slow compared to EVERYONE…
Man up and coach and get these guys in proper positions thats why we pay Wulff 500,000+ a year..
coug79 on October 08 at 12:46 p.m.
DeerLakeRon—it seems to me that what has been kicked around regarding the “empty cupboard” in football vs. BB is the quality of the remaining recruits when the previous coach departed. Remember the letter from Jim Sterk where he talked about how few of the Doba recruits had any other scholarship offers….essentially saying that the pre-PW recruits that we were left with after Doba were not Pac-10 caliber. I’ve never heard that type comment pointed toward the recruits that Tony B brought to Pullman. I can’t agree or disagree because I don’t follow any of this closely enought to know. But it seems to me that the “empty cupboard” comments on football have been less about the level of experience and more about Pac-10 ability.
ECoug01 on October 08 at 12:55 p.m.
Yes sterks comments were a little strange. Such a mixed message from WSU. They in one breath talk about wanting the diamonds in the rough and the guys that have no other pac 10 offers but can just straight play football (ie Derting).. Then they release a statment like Sterk about these guys hardly had any other offers.. ( ie you arent that talented).. Dumb press and they can’t seem to make up their mind. Sterk seemed to take lessons from Wulff on calling players untalented.. Coach these chip on the shoulder kids up then Wulff!!!! Or are you just wearing the headset on the sideline? I understand we want Pac10 quality talent but many great players have been guys that were over looked and played their butt off and were coached up and became the coug players we love..
I personally am SICK of the excuses and lack of accountability by the staff.. Quit blaming players talent, speed, etc.. and COACH. Lets face facts as a coach at WSU you better learn and have the ability to coach up kids that are slightly less talented, overlooked by schools, and a half step slower than most of the pac 10.. You better be able to tap the talent and the strengths of these players and massage your gameplan to minimize their weaknesses.. Why does the media especially go so soft on WSU coaching staff and the lack of ACCOUNTABILITY!!!
johnnycougar on October 08 at 2:53 p.m.
DeerLakeRon,
I think the difference is that Tony had been handcuffed a bit by Dick Bennet revitalizing the program. He inherited an upperclassmen-filled team and had relatively few scholarships to give out to those who would be our Juniors and Seniors this year. The recruits he did bring in have been good so far and look to be great eventually.
Like Coug79 said, in football Doba left Wulff a team of mostly non-Pac 10 caliber players, some of whom had eligibility issues anyways. It’s just ridiculous to me that true freshmen are beating out Doba’s upperclassmen recruits for several positions. Especially in football, where strength and size tend to dominate. Imagine how much better these young’uns will be in three years than our current Seniors are!
sammamishcoug on October 08 at 5:30 p.m.
DeerLakeRon,
The difference is the freshman/sophs TB “left” WSU with are Klay Thompson, Casto, Capers, Xavier Thames, etc. Big difference.