January 30, 1995 in Nation/World

Parties Split On Block Grants For Welfare Republican Governors Seeking More Freedom To Craft Programs

Marlene Cimons Los Angeles Times
 

Republican governors once again called on the federal government Sunday to give states more freedom in crafting a new welfare system, while Clinton administration officials and other Democrats warned that such an approach - without safeguards - could hurt millions of poor children.

“You know, if you give us the flexibility, you’d be surprised at how much opportunity there is out there for 50 governors to come up with new programs,” Wisconsin Gov. Tommy G. Thompson said on CBS-TV’s “Face the Nation.”

Thompson and others echoed a theme that has surfaced repeatedly in recent weeks on Capitol Hill and elsewhere as the debate over welfare reform has escalated: eliminate welfare as a federal entitlement program and have Washington give the states money in the form of block grants, allowing them to each decide how to allot the funds.

“There ought to be an entitlement, not by individual, but by the states,” said Calif. Gov. Pete Wilson, speaking on ABC-TV’s “This Week With David Brinkley,” adding: “The states ought to receive block grants. We ought to determine how to administer that.”

But Democrats predicted tragic results from such an approach if states experience severe economic problems and run out of money - or are forced to make tough choices about how to use it.

“Wisconsin may be able to take care of all of their poor children if there’s an economic downturn, and another state may not be able to,” Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala said on the CBS program. “When we lay out this debate it’s … about how we take care of our children.”

Last year, the administration proposed a welfare reform plan with job training and education for recipients, but a cutoff of benefits after two years. The administration’s proposal would also have enforced laws requiring unwed mothers to identify the fathers of their children and tightened procedures for collecting child support so that less financial assistance would be needed from the government.

House Republicans have put forth the block-grant proposal. Their plan would also deny cash welfare to unwed mothers younger than 18 and would deny aid to legal immigrants who are not yet citizens.

Democratic Gov. Howard Dean of Vermont, speaking on the ABC program, agreed with Shalala. “If you sign the money over to the states with absolutely no strings, there’s no guarantee that in some future date that money won’t be used for something else,” he said.

But Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, a GOP presidential hopeful, said painful decisions are inevitable if the programs are to be overhauled. “You can’t change this mammoth system without hurting some people,” he said on NBC-TV’s “Meet the Press.”

“When my mama worked in a cotton mill, she earned more than $28 a week - she earned self-respect, and I think we’ve got to ask the people riding in the wagon to get out,” he added. “I think we’ve got to stop giving people more and more money to have more and more children.”

Rep. E. Clay Shaw Jr., R-Fla., chairman of the House Ways and Means subcommittee that oversees welfare, agreed that the entitlement approach must change.

“Entitlements are government on autopilot,” he said on the CBS program, predicting that the balanced-budget debate in Congress will force lawmakers “to look at all entitlements.”


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