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August 5, 2010 in City, Region
Rossi still disputes job-saving measure
Dino Rossi
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Vancouver, Wash. — Republican U.S. Senate candidate Dino Rossi, in Vancouver to speak to the local Tea Party organization, said he still opposes a $26 billion bill pushed toward passage by his Democratic opponent Wednesday that will save Washington jobs and stave off deep budget cuts over the next 11 months.
U.S. Sen. Patty Murray helped lead an effort to overcome a Republican filibuster and win Senate passage of the measure, which advocates say will stop the layoff of nearly 300,000 public employees. The bill, which is expected to win final passage in the House and Senate next week, would provide $16 billion to states to help pay their medical bills and $20 billion to schools to forestall teacher layoffs this year.
It’s expected to save the jobs of more than 6,400 Washington teachers, police officers and firefighters, according to the Washington State Democratic Party.
In June, Rossi said he wouldn’t support an earlier version of the bill because it wasn’t paid for with cuts elsewhere in the federal budget.
Democrats say the latest version is fully paid for, in part with $12 billion in cuts to food stamps and the closure of tax loopholes for some multinational companies.
Rossi told The Columbian he wasn’t impressed with Murray’s victory.
“It was done in a hasty manner,” he said. “She put a permanent tax in place for a temporary fix, and she’s taking money from our troops.” He did not elaborate.
Rossi spoke to an enthusiastic group at Fishers Grange and answered questions from a panel and from audience members. We the People Vancouver organizer Tom Hann said he’d been trying to schedule Rossi for two months, even before the former state senator and two-time candidate for governor formally entered the U.S. Senate race. “I was a respectful pest,” Hann said.
Rossi delivered his standard stump speech, beginning with the question, “Are you ready to retire Patty Murray’s tennis shoes?” to hoots and applause,
“America is in trouble,” he said. “This current crop of politicians, they’re borrowing to consume. That cannot end well.”
He criticized Murray for her ranking as one of the Senate’s top users of budget earmarks to deliver federal projects to her state and said Murray has voted for every spending bill that has come before the Senate since 2004.
“Everything she’s been voting for is killing jobs,” Rossi said.
He called the health reform bill “a tax and spend bill” and said the new financial reform bill also “kills jobs” by starving businesses of money they need to grow.
Addressing one of the hottest topics in Congress these days, he also said tax cuts passed during the George W. Bush administration “all need to be authorized or it will be the largest tax increase in history.” Most of those tax cuts will expire by the end of the year.
In response to questions, Rossi vowed not to vote for federal legislation that violates the Constitution, affirmed his support for the Second Amendment guarantee of the right to bear arms, and said the federal government is ineffective in boosting the economy.
“The more the federal government sticks its nose in, the worse things get,” he said.
Rossi said he’d cut the federal budget the same way he cut the state budget when he chaired the Senate Ways and Means Committee in 2003, by scrutinizing it “line by line.” However, he declined to list federal agencies he would support doing away with to reduce federal spending.
“I’m not running on abolishing departments at this point,” he said.
Asked about immigration policy, Rossi said he wants to secure the borders, but still leave open the opportunity for immigrants like his own Italian grandparents to come to the U.S. legally and become citizens. He said he has no good solution for what to do with the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants who live in the U.S. today.
We the People Vancouver plans to post video clips of its vetting sessions with candidates for the U.S. Senate, 3rd Congressional District and Clark County legislative races no later than Friday, Hann said.
The group is not making formal endorsements.
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misjustice on August 05 at 8:47 a.m.
Note to Dino: the Mad Hatter attended tea parties, also!
PlanB on August 05 at 9:03 a.m.
Dino has definitely been drinking the tea party kool-aid. It’s hard to fathom that we could possibly elect someone with absolutely no substance. Read his ‘platform’ - no answers at all, just insipid republican rhetoric.
opiemuyo on August 05 at 9:11 a.m.
It’s a pretty simple concept that seems to escape some people, if you don’t have the money you should not spend it.
Patty Murray is a mindless minion of the tax and spend party, and a “good” Catholic that votes for abortion. Hmm.. Dino any day.
spokanada on August 05 at 9:27 a.m.
Steve, what does abortion have to do with this article?
MrNatural on August 05 at 9:30 a.m.
Dino is a Kool-Aid drinking loser (also see Doug Clark). Groveling to the Tea-Party’s goes to show how desperate he is to find votes…And simple concepts attest to simple minds and these are complex issues requiring intellectual wisdom. I’m voting For Patty Murray…she is looking out for the best interests of the people of Washington.
MrDavis on August 05 at 9:49 a.m.
We can’t keep relying on money we don’t have. When the dollar and economy collapse under the weight of unsustainable debt, who bails us out, and with what?
bdr on August 05 at 10:36 a.m.
If this guy writes budgets that flop in a good economy!
just imagine now???????
Locke/Rossi wrote a budget in 2003 that left Gregoire with a looming $2.2 billion deficit when she came into office in January 2005.
NO WAY Rossi…….unemployed real-estate salesman is just yanking your chain.
MrNatural on August 05 at 10:48 a.m.
I concur that we cannot keep relying on money we don’t have. In perspective I believe the issues confronting the U.S. failed economics policies may have gone too far for anyone to fully comprehend. However, I think our deficit is mostly due to the demise of the middle class in this country. I think Rossi is still a trickle down voodoo economics republican and this is was a major cause in the demise of the working middle class.
I think Patty Murray is working toward strengthening the middle class in our state.
Diana on August 05 at 10:48 a.m.
Dino Rossi: constitutional scholar. ROFL!
SpokaneLiberal on August 05 at 10:48 a.m.
Mr. Davis where was your concern about unsustainable debt during Bush’s years or during Reagan’s? Debt is a problem but during a recession is not the time to cut spending. You cut spending during a growth period. You increase taxes during a growth period. During down periods you absolutely spend more, even if you don’t have it. The problem is that during growth periods we keep cutting taxes and jacking spending.
mikeln on August 05 at 11:10 a.m.
It was allright to borrow money to fund the governments illegal wars for profit but not one cent to americans that are hurting? The difference…..the war profit goes directly to the wealthy while help to the people does not trickle up fast enough for these greedy a-holes.
Dazzeetrader11 on August 05 at 11:16 a.m.
Doesn’t matter where he WAS, Lib….Obama, Gregoire and Murray/Cantwell…have driven a shakey bus int worse shape NOW. Time to tighten things up. Just saying a cut in food stamps will fund this mess, is just a lie.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/08/05/food_stamp_use_hit_record_408m_in_may/
Plunging toward socialism with social programs out of control won’t help the US. ….unless the goal allong was indeed socialism. I think it was. Name one social program the Dems haven’t voted for. Just one. With soaring unemployment and this month’s record number of application, it appears what the Dems are doing simply isn’t working.
Things are much worse. Bush spent like he was drunk…Obama’s been worse in his spending. DIno presented a balanced budget bdr….get it right. What nobody could know was that Gregoire and her union friends wouldn’t follow it.
We didn’t have this deficit until Gregoire lost her mind with spending…..as has Obama. I suspect the lib dems are mostly writing on this thread….squeaky wheel and all that.
The country is so much against what you libs write….it’s ridiculous.
Novemeber should shed some light on liberal beliefs. DIno is correct though. Vote for him.
SpokaneLiberal on August 05 at 11:53 a.m.
Daisy a balanced budget in this economy is suicide. Private sector spending is way down. If we tack on a 20% drop in public sector spending the multiplier effect will mean probably a 50% reduction in demand for goods and services by public sector and public sector employees. With little demand from anyone (private or public sector) it will pull us further down the depression hole. Businesses that were teetering before will fall, businesses that were solid will teeter, further reducing demand. Once a recovery is solid and growth back up, then balance the budget, heck hack away at spending and increase taxes, because what you need to do is pay down deficits during good times and spend like wild people during bad. Basic Keynesian economics. Balanced budget hawks are the last thing we need now. What we do need is, during good times, someone with the intelligence to not cut taxes but raise them, to not boost spending but cut it.
Dazzeetrader11 on August 05 at 12:15 p.m.
Lib you just hit the nail on the head. Balanced budget is suicide for politicians. They know that. Hard choices my friend….but we must balance the money or the system will continue to break down. And when it breaks, lesser living and lesser programs are inevitable.. Look at Sweden, Canada, etc …it’s already underway. Sweden (to its credit) is finally turning back to lower taxes and less social spending. Some will get left out….social programs are unsustainable…..not in this volume.
We need to take care of those who cannot care for themselves….not those who won’t take care of themselves. Nobody disputes that. Some people will fall by the wayside as social programs are cut. Joblessness won’t help. I’m saddened and disgusted by this whole mess.
America needs conservatives when it comes to money handouts. Spending for nothing in return won’t work.
Scoutster on August 05 at 12:17 p.m.
Kudos to Rossi for admitting he doesn’t have a good solution for what to do with 11 million undocumented workers and their families. At least he acknowledges some things are more complicated than tea.
As a Murray supported, I voted for Didier, figuring he was the nuttiest of the bunch to actually perhaps get nominated. Now I see Rossi at least as nutty.
Patti is safe.
spokanecougar on August 05 at 12:49 p.m.
I dont get why so many people are to stupid to see what the GOP is really all about. This is a political party that makes no apologies for its defending of very rich and powerful corporations who run this country and the very rich and powerful people who run them (and in effect run us the people). This is a party that has blocked a bill to help small business - because it takes money from the large corporations and banks forcing them to lend to small business instead of sitting on the BILLIONS of dollars that we tax payers gave them. This is a party that has blocked wall street reform because it puts regulations on large Wall Street banks that got this country into this mess in the first place and will not allow them to continue to do the same business practices that made them billions of dollars. They have blocked legislation that taxes corporations for shipping jobs overseas to countries were they can pay the workers $50 a month in China instead of a living wage here in America. This is a party that even blocked health care to 9/11 first responders because it did not benefit any large corporations and they said it would help illegal immigrant first responders on 9/11 to get health care….the GOP is playing politics with some of this countries bravest people who ran into these buildings to save people, but since they are not large corporations or rich wealth white men the GOP will not help them.
Now the GOP is trying to say that if we let the tax cuts expire it will be raising taxes? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? They are picking and choosing what to say and to many Americans are to stupid to learn the truth on their own and just does whatever Fox News tells them to do. The democrats are NOT ending the tax cuts to the middle class or the poor, they are ending the tax cuts to the top 1% of wage earners in the country to raise their tax rate from 35% to 39%, while KEEPING the tax cuts in place on the middle class and poor…..THIS NOT NOT A TAX INCREASE YOU RETARDED REPUBLICANS since they are the ones that put in this date for these tax cuts to expire, not the democrats.
liarsinnews on August 05 at 1:10 p.m.
Doesn`t anybody remember for gosh sakes, mom in dirty tennis shoes taking the second largest amount of cash from the thug lobbyist Abram(son?) who now makes his residence in the Iron Bar Hotel? And to boot, Murray had spent most of it and refused to return any of the money saying she deserved the loot. Even Hillary Clinton returned the money she received from the crooked lobbyist, along with everybody else from both parties with one exception. Patty Murray had no shame and her shear arrogance claiming the money she received was legit, while she was the only Senator to keep the cash. Legit? Talk about stupidity on Murray`s part.
SpokaneLiberal on August 05 at 1:15 p.m.
Diasy it isn’t that it is suicide for politicians, it is suicide for the economy. We have to balance the system once we get back near “full employment” (unemployment of 4-6.5%) not in the current state. Some countries could cut programs and increase taxes appropriately to balance their budgets or get surpluses, but our economy isn’t there yet.
The biggest problem I have is your assertion of a turn back to lower taxes and less social service spending. You need LESS social service spending and MORE taxes during GOOD times. During BAD times you need MORE social service spending and LESS taxes. There is almost no time that you need LESS taxes AND LESS social service spending. That should only occur if a nation is entirely debt free, the economy is good, and there are sufficient reserves to survive the next natural market downturn. It is rational economics. The LESS and LESS mentality is what gets us into these messes. By under-taxing the highs and underspending the lows we run huge deficits during swings one way or the other, exacerbating the problem.
mikeln on August 05 at 1:37 p.m.
The wealthy will still benefit from the taxpayer, one way or the other. They are the ones draining the country dry. They then try to put the blame on the least fortunate, who would love to have a living wage job, if one were availiable, not overseas where the labor is cheap. These people have no shame and worship a god that forgives them for treating the rest of mankind as less then human.
spokanecougar on August 05 at 1:40 p.m.
Daisy says “America needs conservatives when it comes to money handouts. Spending for nothing in return won’t work.”
Really? Like when the conservatives gave the banks the first bailout under Bush with no restrictions on it, which banks promptly gave as bonuses to top executives or spent on expensive corporate retreats. Yes, thats what this country needs, conservatives to be giving billions and billions to their rich corporate friends with no restrictions.
Dazzeetrader11 on August 05 at 2:07 p.m.
Coug You’re lving in the past buddy. Oct 08 was the first. Bush was panicked into a small bailout by Paulsen. George isn’t an economist any more than…thinking of someone who doesn’t know anything about money….oh yeah Murray and Obama! lol..
Blaming Bush is SO over unless you live back there. Obama and his wrecking crew have spent more in 1.5 years than Bush did in 8! …it’s goofy to keep referring back to Bush. Focus on this Obama/Murray Cantwell mess. Dino…is a moderate conservative and he’ll do a better job in my view.
Lib…you might have a good idea ( for once!! lolol). Makes sense. My global thought is this: Culture and financial times are now changed. We must be flexible to meet challenges…financial and social challenges. Judicious and timely management of our resources are key to the future.
Business people like Rossi knows that. I spent some time with him in DC a few months back. He’s a keen mind and not the usual fat cat type. His family is from E Wa and he loves it here. He want to help E Wa much the same as Tom Foley did 20 years ago.
It doesn’t matter to me if the guy is a Dem or Rep…just so he protects interests and makes things better. I think he will…IF ..he doesn’t get caught up in the red machine. I have some hope for him.
I have a fair amount of success on my hands. Not bragging but I put 5 kids through HS and college if they can’t make it on their own. I think this little social experiment is good for everyone. It’s my fervent prayer that this works. Kids all work and they must get above a B average…so yes I put demands on them. It’s a contribution…and it’s what I’m about these days. I wish I could talk my monied friends into this. Society and America would be so much better with education….! Parenthetically….all are flourishing. 2 black…1 hispanic and 2 girls are caucasion. And I don’t get a tax break for any of it. It’s the guts of America…..this is how we “do”.
Contribution is key for everyone to make things better…at least informed..
west on August 05 at 2:07 p.m.
All politicians are evil and good..at the same time….doesn’t matter who’s in charge..we vote for the lesser of two evils….
Dazzeetrader11 on August 05 at 2:21 p.m.
Sorry..I got off topic. I mentioned the 5 kids because Rossi’s send his 4 or 5 through as well..sorry..
misjustice on August 05 at 3:58 p.m.
@ West; sadly, that is all too true!
And sometimes the evil that you know is preferable to the evil that you don’t know… N’est pas?
SpokaneLiberal on August 05 at 4:35 p.m.
The IF on the Big Red Machine is pretty questionable, especially since he is willing to pander (like this article indicates). I am glad my point, which tries to rise above the name calling fray was not lost - we need to spend, even if it means debt, until we have a real recovery. Then we need taxes. Neither of these positions are popular, but they are right.
mikeln on August 05 at 4:42 p.m.
Daisy, it’s people like you that let these greedy elected officials get away with their crap. This is not in any way past as you chose to beleive, our great grand children will be paying for this theft. In my mind this makes it a current issue and these crimminals should be prosecuted, all of them, and at least try to get some of our money back. When you let crapholes treat you like this, there will allways be new crapholes to take their place, having no fear of being held accountable for their actions.
Orange on August 05 at 5:37 p.m.
Dino for Gov!! :)
Cougardave on August 05 at 5:52 p.m.
My vote will go to anybody who will unseat Murray.
misjustice on August 05 at 5:54 p.m.
Lol, Orange! I’ve told you before that he’s running for Senate not for Governor!
liarsinnews on August 05 at 7:26 p.m.
I guess no one seems to care that Patty Murray received dirty money from a corrupt lobbyist. Maybe most of the folks posting comments except for couple, seems to care about Murray`s corruption and hope that she is returned to office. I guess some writers would rather look the other way. Murray needs to be thrown out of office. Receiving dirty money is all I need to know about her. Good riddance.
misjustice on August 05 at 8:00 p.m.
Okay, dick, I’ll bite…here’s the poop on Patty and Jack;
“Tribal Campaign Contributions and Jack Abramoff”
“Murray “received more than $40,000 in contributions from out-of-state Indian tribes represented by disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff campaign finance reports show.
“Murray’s total places her ninth among lawmakers - and second among Democrats - who received campaign donations from tribes associated with Abramoff, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington, D.C.-based group that tracks money in politics. The money was received from 1999 to 2005, the group said in a report posted on its Web site, www.opensecrets.org,” KOMO 1000 TV News reported January 4, 2006.”
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Patty_Murray
So she’s 9th in line for taking tribal money…my question is, did she fleece the tribes or try to progress their cause? Was there a quid pro quo? What did she “do” for the money, dick?
Scoutster on August 05 at 9:41 p.m.
dickadams…
I share your chagrin about politicians taking money and whoring themselves the way our system makes them. Unfortunately, I can’t make such ugliness the basis of a vote because it is so pervasive.
Dirty money? What isn’t dirty money? It’s all filthy.
Anybody ready for exclusively publicly paid campaigns, at least for federal offices?
misjustice on August 06 at 6:40 a.m.
I am for public financing of campaigns AND for LIMITING THE CAMPAIGN “SEASON” TO 90 DAYS PRIOR TO AN ELECTION!
I think they go together…but good luck getting that through; especially with the Citizens United decision handed down by SCOTUS…
Dazzeetrader11 on August 06 at 12:21 p.m.
Mike…tell Obama…..let him know he needs to quit assaulting America’s future. Dems have had control for years….both houses for years…you might want to send them a note of your concern.
ME? I vote for the guys who don’t spend your money…..I’m looking after ya.:)
misjustice on August 06 at 12:30 p.m.
Yeah, DAZEE, you vote for guys that only give it to their cronies; guys like Sick Dick Cheney and the no bid contracts that he finagled for Haliburton. Good lookin’ out DAZE!
JBlim on August 06 at 1:00 p.m.
Dasey, you mean Bush and the party that doubled the public debt while they destroyed our economy? You vote for them???
01/19/2001 $5,727,776,738,304.64
01/20/2009 $10,626,877,048,913.08
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
misjustice on August 06 at 1:13 p.m.
DAZE prefers guys that will steal the money; not ones that will spend it…
When W and King Henry got together to ROB the treasury (bankster bail out) and their robbery was announced on the tee vee, I ran to my open screen door and yelled into the sky, “Bank robbers, bank robbers! Theives, they’re stealing our money!” My neighbors yelled back, “Who’s a bank robber?”
I answered, “The President, Dubya!” They answered “Yeah, what’s new?”
W and Sick Dick HAD to start the war in Iraq, they needed the chaos; because in chaos you can STEAL and get away with it, the “fog of war” and all!
They stole your fake kids futures, DAZE! And the futures of plenty of real American kids…
Good lookin’ out…
Scoutster on August 06 at 2:41 p.m.
She’s under the influence of Kool-Aid.
Scoutster on August 06 at 2:54 p.m.
Daisy says:
ME? I vote for the guys who don’t spend your money…..I’m looking after ya.:)
No, Daisy, they just borrow our grandchildren’s money.
How about some EVIDENCE for such a silly statement, Daisy? Not Obama bashing, and not a rant about how bad everyone else is.
How about some EVIDENCE, some HISTORY, of how the GOP didn’t spend money between 2001 and 2007 and paid for what they authorized?
misjustice on August 06 at 5:58 p.m.
@ Scoutster; now, now, that’s not fair to DAZE, there is no evidence…Lol!
It was the era of BORROW AND SPEND!
Scoutster on August 07 at 6:30 p.m.
Still nothing from Daisy. That always happens once we get to the facts.
dtmelin on August 08 at 11:42 a.m.
this thread is comical. a bunch of accusatory liberals purposely mis-spelling Daisy’s name and arguing about Bush? lol. for the bleeding heart group, your anger is eye opening. thought democrats were supposed to be sympathetic to people’s views?? guess not……unless they’re the same as yours. riiiiight. i gotcha.
and jblim…. under Bush’s administration the federal deficit may have increased by 5 trillion over 8 years. Obama is spending 3 times as fast, as the deficit has gone up by almost 3 trillion in 1.5 years (that extrapolates to a 16 trillion dollar increase over the course of an 8 year presidency). who is wasting our money???? hmmmmmmmmmm. Jblim, if that’s such an issue to you….you vote for them??
Scoutster on August 08 at 1:52 p.m.
dttmelin…
Can you tell me how this liberal was disrespectful. I’m only asking for proof of assertions made without evidence.
JBlim on August 08 at 10:44 p.m.
Obviously, dtmelin, Obama cannot stop the growth in federal spending the moment he steps into office, anymore than you could stop a supertanker on a dime, especially when his presidency started in the midst of the greatest economic calamity since the 1930’s. The massive bailout was worked up by a panicky Republican administration. Everyone asked why anyone would want to be president at a time like that. Some even suggested that the Republicans wanted to lose since the economy was such a basket case. Then they could blame the dems. Contrast that with George W Bush, who was handed a budget surplus by Bill Clinton when he left office. And, by the way, I never said the budget was or was not any big concern of mine. Republicans didn’t care about the dept until Obama took office. It’s just political garbage talk.
Ridings10 on August 09 at 4:52 p.m.
JBlim,
You make me laugh so hard. How do you have a surplus but still have the national debt increase for that year? Heck the national debt has increased every year since 1957 according to http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo4.htm
and http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
Let the evidence speak for itself. It goes to show that every president since 1957 has spent more money than we’ve had. Regardless of what person we’ve chosen they’ve always been spenders and have never once done what they’ve promised on having a surplus. Don’t believe all the bull that both parties throw your way. It’s all BS.
JBlim on August 10 at 7:09 a.m.
Jer:
You can quibble over government accounting but look here and compare revenues vs outlays in 1998 to 2001
http://www.cbo.gov/budget/data/historical.pdf
When Clinton came into office and put through the budget that ultimately produced these surpluses, every single Republican voted against it.
If you put Rossi in there and he’ll vote with all the Republicans to give more tax breaks to the super wealthy. Republicans don’t really care about the deficit. They just say they do.
misjustice on August 10 at 8:30 a.m.
@ JBlim: Republican’ts only care about the deficit when they are not in power.
Their play book is to run up huge deficits when they are in power, and cry that “Deficits don’t matter!” And then, when they are out of power, they blame the opposition for the very deficits that they created!
Ridings10 on August 10 at 9:35 a.m.
Jblim,
I can see from the numbers where the surplus comes from. It only comes from the Public Debt that is held by we the people. The issue is that it’s only one piece of the total national debt. When intragovernmental debt goes up more than public debt goes down, the national debt still goes up. Regardless of whatever accounting method they use, cause it’s all crooked to make every pres look better, the only way to judge is to see if the total national debt goes down. And it hasn’t in over 50 years.
I’m not trying to defend the Republican side because I know how messed up their reps are but I’m tired of hearing of how great the dems are when they aren’t any better. In fact, they’re the same. They all screw us over and get rich in the process. You can say what you want but in the end most all politicians will bend you over after they lube you up and to think otherwise is being ignorant.
JBlim on August 10 at 4:54 p.m.
No Jer, they are not the same. Republicans spend more. I looked at all the presidents back to Ford using the public debt links you supplied above. The average yearly debt percentage increase was:
Ford 18.0%
Carter 10.7%
Reagan 35.9%
HW Bush 13.6%
Clinton 4.0%
W Bush 25.6%
Or 23.3%/year Republicans
vs: 14.7%/year Democrats
Sorry, not the same, Republicans are fiscally irresponsible.
Ridings10 on August 11 at 9:33 a.m.
Jblim,
That is true, and I shoulda made my meaning of “the same” a little clearer. What i meant to say was that regardless of Republican or Democrat, they’re going to spend us in to more debt. While there is a difference in the spending amounts you’re gonna argue that it’s more responsible to spend less even though you’re still spending more than you have? Looks like I need to re-write my definition of Fiscal Responsibility. My hope would be that one of these presidents would finally learn how to balance the budget and spend within their means and see the national debt go down just once. That would be impressive!!!
JBlim on August 11 at 9:17 p.m.
Jer, nobody’s ever gonna balance the budget. Everybody knows that. Just get a big mortgage to short the dollar, buy lots of stocks and you’ll be fine over the very long term.