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December 6, 2010 in City
Gun found near man shot by police
Investigators found a pistol near the body of a man shot to death by Spokane police Saturday night outside of a Hillyard tavern, authorities said Sunday.
Police were dispatched to the Special K Tavern after receiving a 911 call Saturday about a man with a gun inside the bar, but it remains unclear what prompted the fatal gunfire. The 911 caller told dispatchers that her companion had gone outside with the man to “talk him down,” according to the Spokane County Sheriff’s Office, which is investigating the shooting.
Police located the armed man in the parking lot of the tavern, where he was shot. Officers performed CPR in an unsuccessful attempt to save him.
The Sheriff’s Office gave no indication Sunday whether the man fired on officers. It also is not yet clear how many officers were involved.
Two friends who arrived at the scene after the incident identified the shooting victim as 34-year-old Jeremy Groom, of Spokane, but police have not yet confirmed his identity.
2 home invasion robberies in Spokane 
oneanddone on December 06 at 5:11 a.m.
Given ANY set of facts, the boo-birds will still condemn the cops - until they need one that is. Just like lawyers. Face it. If you’re walking around with a hand gun and you’re confronted by the police, you’d be wise to drop to your knees and interlace your fingers behind your head. However, as a sop to the left, it also makes no sense for ANYONE, other than the police, to be carrying a handgun for any reason. Concealed weapon permits only increase the danger to everyone, with no benefit to anyone.
ZagChuck on December 06 at 6:47 a.m.
Oneanddone.
My prayers go out to the families of both the Officers involved and Mr. Grooms.
The first part of your statement is correct; people will be blaming the cops without any facts and without any working knowledge of their training, experience, or the situation they were sent to that night.
The last part is foolishly wrong. Now more than ever people need to be able to protect themselves. Reliance on the police will not save you when you need it most.
911 is purely government sponsored dial-a-prayer. Think about it, the majority of all police work involves arriving on the scene after the fact and documenting the incident. By then it’s usually too late.
It has been proven over and over again, in cities and states across the country, the more restricted areas have higher gun violence rates and higher murder rates. Cities and states with less restrictions of firearm possession have significantly lower gun violence and murder rates.
It seems as though Grooms has his weapon with him in the bar and while under the influence. The first is illegal the second is irresponsible.
Pat O'Leary on December 06 at 7:10 a.m.
This article clarifies absolutely nothing. All we know that an idiot carrying a gun is dead with no facts to point out why.
soccermomsusie on December 06 at 7:35 a.m.
I would just like to know where in the Constitution it says I can’t wave a gun at the police, or approach a police cruiser with my gun drawn in the middle of the night. I have looked and looked and can’t find it.
I didn’t find anything about ObamaCare, having to drive on the right side of the road, paying a corking fee when I drink cough syrup with my Big Mac at McDs, flossing, knocking over Libertard Demoncrat campaign signs, parking on the sidewalk when it is too far to walk from my Hummer, liberating lightbulbs, sheets and towels from socialist hotels and trying to force everyone into reciting the Pledge of Allegiance while they wait at the doctor’s office or Les Schwabbs.
I am surprised how we have let our Constitutional freedoms lapse due to inattentiveness. Take a stand America! If it is not addressed specifically in the Constitution, do what you will. Our Founding Fathers knew best.
HEAR OUR VOICE!!!
lewis8457 on December 06 at 7:43 a.m.
KXLY reported he was pointing a gun at at friend who was trying to talk him down when “drop your gun” was heard and 2 seconds later 4 shots rang out.
Of course the friend is not a trained police officer who might not know how to count correctly because as many on these blogs would have us to believe anyone who distrusts the police has no credibility. As if a person has to believe in murder by police to be credible. Which pretty much tells where we are headed as a society.
My question is why own a gun? all it will do is get you killed if a cop see’s you with it regardless what you might be doing with it. You can not protect your own property with it just ask Scott Creach.
lewis8457 on December 06 at 7:45 a.m.
Jay Olsen had his gun with him a a bar and he was drunk, but holy heck it is miracle he is alive!!! Pray tell.
mikeln on December 06 at 7:48 a.m.
Alcohol and guns, not a good combination. Could have been at home, smoking a bowl and still be alive.
CMrocks on December 06 at 8:00 a.m.
oneanddone wrote: Face it. If you’re walking around with a hand gun and you’re confronted by the police, you’d be wise to drop to your knees and interlace your fingers behind your head.
That didn’t save Aaron Campbel: 1 officer fired, 3 suspended for Aaron Campbell shooting
(KGW headline from Portland Oregon)
No murder charges. If you read the story this guy was surrendering to police. He exited his apartment walking backward with his hands on his head. They shot him dead. This happened last January and the mayor finally got around to firing one of them and temporarily suspending three others on Nov 15th. Here is the reaction of the Portland Police Association:
“Meantime, the Portland Police Association released a scathing statement to the media in response to the mayor’s announcement Monday.
‘The 930 members of the Portland Police Association will now have to come to the realization that Mayor Sam Adams and Police Chief Mike Reese have ignored the truth and the facts regarding the Aaron Campbell incident…. even though the facts prove that the officers and sergeants did nothing wrong and performed their jobs correctly,’”
Anyone still think cops are heroes?
gyrusx on December 06 at 8:03 a.m.
It took investigators 48 hours to catch the first break…
Albert on December 06 at 8:21 a.m.
Proverbs 20:1
Cheezwhiz on December 06 at 8:54 a.m.
Proverbs 21:12-13
zelda on December 06 at 10:58 a.m.
>>It has been proven over and over again, in cities and states across the country, the more restricted areas have higher gun violence rates and higher murder rates. Cities and states with less restrictions of firearm possession have significantly lower gun violence and murder rates.<<
Correlation is not cause.
soccermomsusie on December 06 at 11:36 a.m.
Zelda Krup, finally someone has spoken scientifically on this subject - YOU!
Case in point, I know Whitefish Montana has a much lower gun violence rate than New York City, even though it is more acceptable to dry fire my glock in and around the public library in Whitefish.
Sure, the naysayers will say “nay.” Then they will say, “This is ridiculous. Every study taken shows that increasing firearm regulations, in areas where there has been firearm violence, has decreased firearm violence substantially due to these regulations.”
Well, I say, “GET OFF IT EGGHEADS!” We are not talking about statistically comparing before and after in high gun crime areas in large urban populations, once firearm strictures are enforced. BORIIIING!
We are comparing areas like Los Angeles and New York to places like Pt Barrow and the Mojave Desert. Really, is there any other way to do this to prove what we want to prove?!?!
Correlation is not cause. Likewise, causation is not Corelle.
HEAR OUR VOICE!!!
Thoreau on December 06 at 12:05 p.m.
Concealed weapons are a good idea. Try telling the people of Chicago how not having the right to carry a concealed weapon lowers deaths. Gangbangers carry and use guns there, terrorizing neighborhoods filled with civilians who aren’t allowed to even OWN a handgun.
As for this case, possessing a concealed weapons permit has its restrictions, one of which is that it is unlawful to carry a concealed weapon into a bar, plain and simple. The cops should have been called when the first person noticed the gun, whether it was brandished or not.
Bob_Knows on December 06 at 1:34 p.m.
The City Council needs to drastically cut the budget for Public Murder. Every one of the blue gun thugs is a threat to public safety. We the people would all be a lot more safe if the Council would cut 90% out of their bloated budget and run the lot of them out of town.
How many dead men will it take before Council stops taxing us to pay for murder/
MrNatural on December 06 at 2:23 p.m.
I wonder if this is what it was like in Dodge City and Tombstone back in the day?
lewis8457 on December 06 at 8:43 p.m.
Gun found by police, really? could it be because the victim had a gun in his hand? and we are paying this guys a hundred grand? Oh yeh oh i forgot for all their special training.
bszottlinger on December 08 at 7:33 p.m.
“ I wonder if this is what it was like in Dodge City and Tombstone back in the day?”
You might try asking Hawken he says he is a old retired Arizona Law Enforcement Officer so he could fill you in on Tombstone. As a matter of fact I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t there when the Earps shot it out with the liberal progressive Clantons and the McLaurys.