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December 16, 2010 in Nation/World
Final hurdle for tax bill: Is the end in sight?
WASHINGTON — Acting with uncommon speed, Congress moved toward final passage tonight of sweeping, bipartisan legislation to avoid a Jan. 1 spike in income taxes for millions and renew jobless benefits for victims of the worst recession in 80 years.
The measure also will cut Social Security taxes for nearly every wage-earner and pump billions of dollars into the economy.
The legislation was the result of a reach across party lines by President Barack Obama and top Republicans in Congress — stubborn adversaries during two years of political combat that ended when the GOP emerged the undisputed winner in midterm elections on Nov. 2.
Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla., called the legislation “a bipartisan moment of clarity” as the House moved toward an expected late night vote.
After forcing a delay earlier in the day, Democratic critics conceded the bill was on track to pass.
“The president will be able to sign it as soon as he likes,” said Rep. Rob Andrews of New Jersey, one of several members of the party’s rank and file who objected to an estate tax provision they called a giveaway to the rich.
The Senate passed the legislation Wednesday, 81-19.
Obama honors Medal of Freedom recipients as heroes 
hawken on December 16 at 3:49 p.m.
said Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas…. “The Republicans will rule the House for the next two years; let’s not give them an early start today.”
Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., “This is the last opportunity we have,” he said, noting that Congress will soon adjourn for the year and Republicans will control the House in January.
These liberals, and others like them, could care less what the people said loudly in November.
Some 60+ of these far left, were voted out of office, replaced by Republicans. They clearly show their contempt for the will of the American people.
misjustice on December 16 at 4:03 p.m.
Well, Chickenhawken, it was the effin “will of the people” which elected Doggett and DeFazio, you nimrod; and their terms are NOT up yet.
hawken on December 16 at 5:28 p.m.
misjudgment….
Your reading comprehension is again sorely lacking…
“Some 60+ of these far left, were voted out of office, replaced by Republicans. They clearly show their contempt for the will of the American people.”
I didn’t say the terms of Doggett and DeFazio were up.
I usually don’t go back and explain what is clearly written.
However, I’m making an exception here, considering your special needs.
Plus, I am taking into consideration that “reading disabilities” appears to be more common among the liberal left. So, this is for the benefit of other liberals as well.
misjustice on December 16 at 5:38 p.m.
Hey, Chickenhawken, why don’t you return to this thread and answer Ed’s question? Becauze you are a Chickenhawken, that’s why!
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/dec/13/discharged-gay-veterans-sue-reinstatement/
hawken on December 16 at 5:58 p.m.
misjudgment…
I’ve long ago decided not to answer anymore personal questions. I learned this the hard way when I first started posting on this blog.
All you are looking for is more to malign, misrepresent, use as “Red Herrings”, and lie about.
So, you probably need to get over the fact that you’ve got all you’re going to get from me, about me, personally.
You might remember that I warned Daisey of the same a couple of days ago when you pressed here for personal information.
We all understand how prominent “character assassination” is in the liberal retort, when you’re bankrupt of logical argument. This also explains why you are so desperate to get as much personal information as possible on your opponents.
My opinions, assessments, arguments and corroborating links will have to do. Actually, that’s more than sufficient for me.
Ed is only pissed off because I burned him on the cite he posted, the research he cited, to support his opinion, which had nothing to do with the topic at hand…. same string you cite above.
As to his question,,, who funds “The Council For National Policy.” I answered that question. I have no idea.
misjustice on December 16 at 6:50 p.m.
“Ed is only pissed off because I burned him on the cite he posted”
No, Chickenhawken, Ed is one of the most respected posters on the SR blogs and he actually holds a PhD. You, however, are one of the most despised and a PhD faker.
johnclarke on December 16 at 6:58 p.m.
I find your comments somewhat ironic Hawken, as you were calling me a liar (among other things) for posting the Pentagon study on DADT. I note you hide behind excuses every time you are pressed for evidence, or asked for specifics on your claims on education, or for that matter - just about anything. You are exactly like every “conservative” hypocrite/coward I’ve ever known. You hide behind your keyboard spouting your “Christian” values and bloviate about tax cuts and the rest of your flawed logic. Again, those of us that have served our country may be responsible for defending your liberty, but we don’t have to like it, “Hawken”.
hawken on December 16 at 7:08 p.m.
misjudgment…
Liberals respect other liberals… Of course.
Ed is no different than any other liberal on this blog….
Liberal opinions are routinely expected to be accepted on their face, by liberals, regardless of facts and logic, no challenge, no opposition, as evinced by liberals, no matter what their educational qualifications.
I am admittedly, despised by the left. Because I consistently expose the hyper-left fallacies.
Of course you fail to point out that hyper-left liberals, homosexual liberals and liberals in general, out number conservative posters on this blog by what???? 20, 30, 40, 60 to one?
Do you actually think that you are gong to “intimidate” me from further postings on this blog?
Do you actually think that you will silence my “conservative” point of view?
You can probably imagine how much sleep I loose every night, knowing that the hyper-left actually despises me.
hawken on December 16 at 7:26 p.m.
Clarke… there you go again with your misrepresentation…. I did NOT call you a liar for posting the Pentagon study… Absurd.
I called you “dishonest and fraudulent” for your declaration that ….”those who are serving [in the military] CLEARY have no problem with the repeal of DADT.
Which I demonstrated, “Ad nauseam” to be a “dishonest and fradulent” statement on your part on the string you refer to.
Of course, you know full well that I demonstrated, with the actual questionnaire, with the actual questions, and the actual results… that 63% of the troops oppose the repeal of DADT.
As I have said in the past, you are known for your misrepresentation.
The problem with a “non-response” to such misrepresentations as you make,,, is that other people start to believe them.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
The_Craven
Joseph Goebbels
Reich Minister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945.
greenlibertarian on December 16 at 8:12 p.m.
Didn’t take long for the troll to prove Godwin’s law, eh?
Quit feeding the troll.
lowtechmaster on December 16 at 8:22 p.m.
Everyone seems to be getting off track and presenting his/her own agenda. To me, it seems significant that the tax cuts will be temporarily extended, unemployment benefits will be extended, and many will see more money in their pockets because of the temporary cut in the Social Security levy on workers. To me, it is also important that for the first time in a few years, both parties seem to be able to work a bit with each other. If our nation is going to come out of this recession, and is going to reel in our horrible national debt, both parties will have to work together. This is not the time to harden ideological barriers.
hawken on December 16 at 8:31 p.m.
lowtechmaster
Here are the ideological barriers:
1- Obama, Republicans and the U.S. Senate have an agreement.
2- The hyper-left, Pelosi commune, is blocking at this time. You will find many of the Pelosi supporters on this blog.
Ideological barriers are obvious.
misjustice on December 16 at 8:38 p.m.
This is exactly the time to stand up for ideology; if not now, when?
The SS tax holiday will only harm the program as less money will be collected to fund the program.
Unemployment INSURANCE is not extended, but funded for an additional 13 months; the 99ers are not going to get any more benefits.
The tax cuts for the filthy rich will be paid for by borrowing MORE money from communist China.
The entire package is a boondoggle with the give aways to the filthy rich used as an enticement to quiet the Koch brothers. The poor get the crumbs from the banquet table of the filthy rich. How is that beneficial to the majority of ‘Mericans?
The fact that the Republican’ts are so jubilant over the “compromise” is suspect.
hawken on December 16 at 8:43 p.m.
Here’s Goodwin….
“According to those who witnessed the event, around 1990, Godwin was actually sleeping in one of his law sk00l classes when he abruptly woke up from a nightmare about one of two former deviant sexual partners of his that we’ll simply refer to as either “Lisa B-S” or “Wiggly Toes”. His incoherent screaming sounded much like the phrase uttered that has become known as “Godwin’s Law”: ”
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Godwin%27s_Law
greenlibertarian… very informative… I didn’t know that.
hawken on December 16 at 8:55 p.m.
misjudgment…. more misrepresentation….
“The fact that the Republican’ts are so jubilant over the “compromise” is suspect.”
Conservative Republicans are not jubilant…. there are a large number of conservative Republicans whom oppose it.
As for me, a conservative, as you well know….. If the Pelosi commune wants to change anything that is agreed upon by the President, the Republicans and the U.S. Senate…. All bets off… kill the bill.
We’ll fix it starting in January when more Republicans report for work.
misjustice on December 16 at 8:58 p.m.
Well, Chickenhawken, FINALLY, a point of agreement; KILL THE BILL!
; )
misjustice on December 16 at 9:01 p.m.
Ha ha ha ha, you’ll “fix” it with a majority in the House, a minority in the Senate, and Barack Hussein Obama in the White House; poised with his VETO pen! ROFLMFAO!
Well, Chickenhawken, you got your wish; the House just passed the bill. So, live it up…hope your grandbaby doesn’t hate you for making him pay for your tax cut…
hawken on December 16 at 9:14 p.m.
misjudgment….
As I have said… Obama can’t even lead his own party let alone the nation.
We’ll get to work in January with 60+ fewer, hyper-liberals in the house, more Republicans in the Senate, some 10 Democrat Senators who want their job back in 2012, a President who wants to be re-elected, and has already moved to the center,,, the push back of the American people.. and, and, the fact that your Socialist, big banker, Soros has withheld your allowance of billions. He might be a socialist, but apparently not stupid to keep investing in Obama and the hyper-left.
What will the Huffington Post do?
While the Republicans don’t control the U.S. Senate in numbers, we will control the 2011, U.S. Senate functionally, for all of the reasons above.
This should be fun! Don’t you think?
hawken on December 16 at 9:23 p.m.
Opps… another failure of the hyper-left…. Listen to the voters!
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, bowing to Republican opposition to a 1,924-page $1.2 trillion spending measure packed with earmarks, withdrew the bill and said he would work with Republican leaders on a smaller, short-term budget fix to avoid a looming government shutdown.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/16/senate-scrambles-avoid-government-shutdown-gop-forces-read-thon/#ixzz18LLsvp6M
Bruce (aka thatoneguy) on December 16 at 10:34 p.m.
Well, I guess we’ll see how things work out starting in January…
Bruce (aka thatoneguy) on December 16 at 10:37 p.m.
By the way hawken, I got an error for that link.
This one seems to have information though:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/
(Sorry, I only read the page, I don’t know anything about the political/ideological leanings of the site or its creator; it was the first thing that came up on a Google search that was not Wikipedia.)
Bruce (aka thatoneguy) on December 16 at 10:43 p.m.
^oops, I meant the 8:43pm post, not the 9:23pm one.