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November 29, 2010 in Outdoors, City, Idaho
Run-in with wolves puts nature in new perspective
A North Idaho woman said she was confronted by at least four wolves between Tensed and Plummer as she walked alone up her rural driveway at dusk on Saturday.
The timing of Karen Calisterio’s phone calls documents her 20 minutes of terror.
Calisterio — who’s involved with Idaho For Wildlife, a group that’s questioned wolf management policies — and her husband, Ed, had returned home after visiting Coeur d’Alene to find their driveway plugged with new-fallen snow. Rather than risk getting stuck, Ed decided to drive to a neighbor’s house to get a plow and clear the road.
Karen, 52, chose to walk the 500 yards up their winding driveway to the house, which overlooks a hayfield where they’d seen 40 head of elk on Tuesday.
As she trudged up, she stopped to answer a cell phone call. When she put the phone in her pocket and continued, she saw two dogs ahead at the crest of the lane.
“It was starting to get dark, and my first thought was that they were our two cow dogs,” she said Sunday in a telephone interview.
“I called to them, but they didn’t react right. Our dogs bark at everything. These didn’t bark.”
Her border collies would have run to her, she said. Instead, the dogs about 200 yards up the lane started walking slowly toward her.
“Then I saw two more of them, and all four were walking toward me,” she said.
“That’s when I said, ‘… I’m alone and I’m in trouble.’ ”
Calisterio said her first reaction was to flee.
“But it stuck in my head that I shouldn’t run,” she said. “I turned and faced them and backed away as I got on my cell phone.”
Describing herself as “frantic,” she called her husband and he began heading back immediately but slid his vehicle off the road in his haste.
She’d answered the first cell phone call at 4:33 p.m. just before seeing the wolves.
“That caused me to stop or I might have been farther up the driveway before I ran into them,” she said.
She called her husband at 4:37 as she was backing away from the advancing wolves.
“Then I started crying, saying to myself, ‘I don’t know what … I’m supposed to do.’
She walked backwards as fast as she could. “They kept coming towards me, but they didn’t appear to be running. It was getting dark fast.”
She called a neighbor at 4:39 and got no answer.
Her husband called her at 4:40 and said he was stuck, but that she should stay calm; he’d be there as fast as he could.
That’s when the wolves disappeared into the brush, she said.
“I couldn’t see them anymore and I couldn’t tell where they went or what they were doing.”
At 4:41, her husband called to check in. “I stayed on the phone with him for 30 seconds. My phone was nearly dead,” she said, so they ended the call.
“Your mind goes crazy,” she said. “I was wearing a long wool coat and remember thinking, ‘I wonder if that would protect me from their sharp teeth.’
“I prayed and I cried.”
At 4:43, still backing down the lane, she contacted another neighbor who said she’d be there as fast as she could.
“She came quickly, and I could see her lights coming but it seemed like an eternity,” Calisterio said, noting that she then began running toward the oncoming vehicle.
At 4:53, she called to tell her husband she was safe in the neighbor’s four-wheel drive.
“My husband and the neighbors later checked the tracks and could see where the wolves had come down to where I’d first seen them and turned around. Then their tracks took off down toward a pond,” she said, describing them as “huge.”
When she reached the house, Calisterio said, she had to coax her dogs out from where they were hiding under the building.
The next day, she said, the encounter was still stirring in her head.
“I want to get the word out, because there are kids who go sledding around here,” she said.
She said they’ve lived on the Tensed place 10 years. Last summer they saw wolves for the first time low on Moses Mountain. They were chasing deer, she said.
“It’s not unusual to see elk around here in the winter,” she said, noting that area residents have been reporting wolf sightings for more than a year. “That might be attracting the wolves.”
“We contacted Benewah County sheriff and they said there was nothing they could do and to call Fish and Game on Monday.
“Suddenly I feel like a prisoner in my own home,” she said. “I can’t feel safe in my own driveway.”
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oneanddone on November 29 at 4:39 a.m.
Living in the hills south of Cda myself I find this story unsettling, but not surprising. When eastern liberals decide how wildlife should be treated in Idaho, confrontations like this will only get worse. Certainly F&G won’t help. A number of years ago I had a rogue bear that wouldn’t leave us alone. I had 3 kids to worry about and called them. They said I lived in the forest and I should learn to get along. Instead I bought a bear hunting license and shot it. I’m not a hunter and didn’t like doing it but my kids came first. Maybe F&G gets too much state funding for the sort of job they think they should be doing.
maria on November 29 at 5:55 a.m.
They were probably just curious and wanted a closer look. Welcome to nature. Deal with it.
maria on November 29 at 5:59 a.m.
The fact that she was wearing a long wool coat, aka sheep’s clothing, probably had nothing to do with their curiosity.
lewis8457 on November 29 at 6:54 a.m.
Move to the woods and kill the animals because you moved into their living room. Why not we did it to the Indians.
crisw on November 29 at 7:22 a.m.
Oh for heaven’s sake.
Woman saw some wolves, they walked towards her until they realized what she was, then they skedaddled.
THIS IS NEWS?
A bobcat walked down my driveway the other day, please send a reporter over immediately. A coyote actually RAN down my driveway- where’s Fox News? A deer was 40 feet from my parked car in the driveway and just kept munching apples! This better make ABC Nightly News!
Sheesh.
crisw on November 29 at 7:30 a.m.
Why aren’t any of the reporters doing their job and reporting that Calisterio is a known anti-wolf activist?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Idaho-For-Wildlife/143039222888
Marksman on November 29 at 8:23 a.m.
Wolves or coyotes?
fortboise on November 29 at 8:36 a.m.
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, maybe?
You wanted to live way out in the wilds, with a quarter-mile driveway, this is what it’s like.
“I was wearing a long wool coat and started wondering… how much do I smell like a sheep?”
KCAL on November 29 at 10:08 a.m.
First of all, while I have lived in my current home for 10 years, before that I lived a couple miles down the road for another 8 years. No the Canadian wolves were not here first. They were brought to Idaho after we moved to this area.
Secondly, these wolves were not simply curious as to who I was, I was yelling and screaming (what the experts say you are suppose to do), they knew I was a human and they still proceeded to advance towards me. Their tracks showed that they advanced all the way to where I was when I first noticed them. Their tracks also showed that halfway down their path they moved from travelling down the middle of the driveway to travelling along the sides of the driveway near the bushes. I did not have a dog with me to attract them. These wolves were not afraid of me.
And to those who think it is so funny, I have great concern for the many children that live in the countryside and enjoy sledding on the snow covered slopes here. I’m sorry if surviving the encounter without being attacked is less than you were hoping for.
And nobody said anything about my wool coat having anything to do with the wolves advancing… I simply wondered if it was strong enough to provide protection should they attack me. Your mockery is typical however.
And last, no I am not a member of Idaho for Wildlife but I do know a couple people who are. I don’t personally know of anyone in the rural areas where I live that is not against the Canadian wolves being brought to Idaho. I posted information once to Idaho For Wildlife’s facebook page about a dinner to educate sportsmen about a recent court decision to re-list the wolves. I met Mr. Rockholm at this event as he was one of the speakers. Are you telling the public that if they have expressed any dislike for wolves it doesn’t matter if become a victim of the wolves?
The entire point that needs to be focused on here is that the public needs to be on aware of the wolves when going outside in rural areas. They need to supervise their children’s outdoor activities and carry a gun to protect themselves. Had I had a gun on me I could have scared them off with a few shots. Secondly, our media outlets need to be proactive in providing the public with safety tips on what to do and what not to do should you encounter wolves, a very real possiblity in Idaho.
beams on November 29 at 10:54 a.m.
KCAL, actually the “canadian” wolves were there first. It is a documented fact that wolves from Canada have been moving into Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming for years and years. If you don’t like living in a state with wildlife, move. If the wolves wanted to attack you, they would have and you would probably not be here.
beams on November 29 at 11:39 a.m.
And what would you have done if it was a bear or cougar that approached you? Somehow, if it was any other animal besides a wolf, this wouldn’t even be talked about.
Bob_Knows on November 29 at 11:55 a.m.
Never go out into the woods alone without a large caliber handgun for company. Bear, wolf, cats, lots of dangers.
maria on November 29 at 1:07 p.m.
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2010/nov/28/wolves-confront-north-idaho-woman-driveway/?c=224960&comments=1#c224960
“That’s when I said Oh Sh*t, I’m in trouble”
Seriously, you printed that SR? No wonder you had to put out a new article. Plus, the old headline kind of made it sound like the animals were circling her and breathing fire and stuff.
straighttalk on November 29 at 1:55 p.m.
Rich, you have made a big deal out of what happens when you live in the woods. This incident is no big deal. And I can assure you the wolves were not the only “big bad” elements in those or any woods.
Strictly a writer’s sensationalizing a story; slow news day or it is per column inch pay.
harrykrebs on November 29 at 2:41 p.m.
The Canadian Gray Wolf is not native to the area, and the government should treat the specie as invasive.
The public participation was not significant enough to be considered a mandate when the introduction began in the 1990’s.
It is time to reopen the hearing process to determine the true level of support.
Itsgodswill on November 29 at 3:14 p.m.
The government should treat the species as invasive? As far as im concerned, human beings should be treated as invasive considering the fact that we’ve been doing nothing but take over land for..How long now? Every new housing development or space for your precious malls and whatever else is being built is taking away from space that animals use as habitat, but then they come into “our area” and it’s a problem. When you move into a land that wolves, or any other wildlife lives in, what do you expect? That they’re going to “respect” that we’ve taken it over? no..They’re going to continue living around you. And in some cases, they’re going to continue eating around you..Whether that means they eat out of your garbage, come into your home, or literally eat you..Sorry, but thats your bad.
To Karen (who this happened to): Just because a wolf may know that you’re a human doesn’t mean that it isn’t curious. What, is it supposed to think “oh, thats a human, I better go..” There isn’t a rule in the wolf world that says anything about them running away once finding out you’re a human. No matter how you look at it, you’re in the territory of a wild animal that doesn’t care what you are or what you’re doing. Just because an “expert” tells you to do this or that, doesn’t mean a damn thing. These “experts” aren’t wolves, therefore do not know what a wolf thinks. I understand the concerns for children, I really do..however, not every wolf should be killed because you’re worried that a wolf MIGHT harm them (or you)..They deserve to live and be in there habitat just as much as you, if not more considering they are 100% fit to be in that environment. DEAL WITH IT.
This story is NOT newsworthy, nor is an anti wolf agenda newsworthy.
beams on November 29 at 4:14 p.m.
The feds did not bring in an invasive species. Gray wolves have been in North America for close to one million years. It is one of those myths spewed by the anti wolf crowd who don’t like the fact that wolves were reintroduced after being wiped out in the 1930’s. You cannot please anyone, but the majority spoke and wolves were reintroduced. Anyone who says gray wolves are an invasive species has no idea what they are talking about. People encounter wildlife all the time. Some make a big deal about it, others don’t. This Karen lady from what I gather is a anti-wolf activist so someone like her would turn an event like this into some sorta big deal. Since being reintroduced 15 years ago, wolves have not killed one person. Don’t listen to these people who are angry that wolves are back and will tell you wolves are so dangerous to people. If that was true, you would have wolves mauling people left in right in Idaho and surrounding states and that hasn’t happened since being reintroduced 15 years ago.
richl on November 29 at 6:16 p.m.
Some good points on all sides in these comments. Of course, I disagree with those who say my column wasn’t newsworthy.
The story — and the sidebar involving another woman and the wolf encounters she experienced at her bar —, point out that for the first time in our lifetimes, gray wolves are showing up in our backyards, and they’re not afraid.
Maybe that’s significant, maybe not. You can cheer for that or boo it, but it’s the newspaper’s job to chronicle these milestones, especially in the case of such a high-profile species.
bloodysunday on November 29 at 7:25 p.m.
Karen Calisterio was also campaign manager for Rex Rammel the anti wolves and Obama tag joker who ran for Idaho governor. Also she worked hard to elect through “brushfire” the Christian right candidate Bouma in Idaho’s 1’st district this fall. They both lost so the news is what is she up to now to sucker the simplistic fearing republicans this season since the elections are over the cash flow must be hurting since he next election is pretty far off. Well it appears to be Wolves and Pam Secord is also a right winger who knows Karen.. curious huh?
maria on November 29 at 7:38 p.m.
Just for wimpy Karen: aka (Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin!)
http://www.whatsupmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2-shining-filming.jpg
bloodysunday on November 29 at 8:26 p.m.
Karen Callisterio is involved heavily with the conservative movement of the anti-federal intrusion into Idaho, Rex Rammel ran on the idea of militia run state withdrawing from the union and the defunding of every aspect of our government. Karen herself said Public education was the greatest harm done to her and she wished she had never been educated at all in the public system . Wow, what ignorance she has and the deep distrust of the narrow members of the conservative Idaho home schooled bunch she now hangs with. Wish her luck in her future political moves. As for the wolves I have not seen any difference in our region and the story is a fabrication at best a false publicity getting stunt , non-event to get her name out there.. I should know as we know each other pretty well…. gotta love it..
beams on November 29 at 10:08 p.m.
This is one way Karen can get her name in the papers. See a pack of wolves and lie about them attacking you. These right wing anti wildlife conservatives are a much greater threat than the wolves.
nitro71 on November 29 at 10:31 p.m.
This whole story smells fishy. To bad the sheriffs dept. didn’t go investigate and find the lack of tracks. If you feel unsafe in the woods carry a weapon.
Rockholm66 on November 29 at 10:40 p.m.
The wolf Cult is sure at it tonight. Did the welfare checks go out today, or what? I am hearing rumblings of some of the wolf cult leaders about to go into financial destitute. I hear they are having a tough time selling their lies.
outfitter88 on November 29 at 11:20 p.m.
So, Let me get this straight, If you are Against Wolves, You have NO RIGHTS as an American Citizen to be SAFE on your PRIVATE PROPERTY…..
Wow, and a field of attorney’s are going to own everything you own in the near future.
Wolf loving lunatics at their best, proving once again that they are Nothing more then Human Haters.
Once again, do we need to study the true facts of how the Pro Wolf lies. This Lie that they (Wolves) are harmless is endangering the American Idaho citizens. The fact that in Alaska they learned all to well about wolves who Didn’t fear humans. Remember they ripped the woman’s throat out and ate her GUTS….
It doesn’t matter if this woman was a group of Anything…She has a RIGHT to feel safe on her private property.
outfitter88 on November 29 at 11:30 p.m.
Oh and Beams…..Spare the drama on the other animal species. We all know, (if you know ANYTHING about animals)
Bears are sleeping right now, Cats are so elusive that the 30 yrs in the back country as an outfitter I have NEVER seen one without a hound and I was hunting specifically for that animal.
And with EACH species that you mentioned before, Unless your talking about a Sow or a Female lion each would only have up to 2 and on rare occassions have 3 YOUNG cubs.
A City Slicker trying it’s best to act like they know about Animals. It was an AWFUL attempt my dear.
Spare the drama PLEASE…This woman was NOT walking in the Woods. She was walking down her DRIVEWAY…..
KCAL on November 30 at 3:30 a.m.
To Beams who stated, “See a pack of wolves and lie about them attacking you.”
Can you not read? I never once stated that I was “attacked.” I clearly stated that after I saw the wolves I called for help and started backing up and the wolves kept advancing towards me. What part of that statement is confusing?
KCAL on November 30 at 3:46 a.m.
To bloodysunday:
And your point is? I am unabashed to say I am a conservative or a member of the Republican Party. And, yes I was a volunteer on Rex’s campaign and on many other campaigns. I care about my children’s future and the future of my country.
I can’t figure out what volunteering for Rex has to do with it being “ok” to be stalked by wolves on private property but since you want to talk about Rex perhaps it’s time for some facts. Whether you like or dislike Rex Rammell is a personal choice but let’s be clear about the facts. Rex Rammell ran on the “Constitution” and everything that document lays out as the law of our land. Rex never advocated for a “militia run state” or “withdrawing from the Union.” What Rex advocated was following the letter of the law as laid out in our Constitution. There is a vast difference between a “militia run state” and a “state run militia”. Having a well regulated militia is mandated in our state Constitution. Article 14 of the Idaho State Constitution clearly calls for a state militia organized for the protection of Idaho and goes on to say that any male between 18 and 45 is automatically part of this militia and if (during times of peace) they choose to opt out of the militia for conscientious reasons against bearing arms they are to pay into their local school district an amount determined by our state legislature in lieu of service.
Another fact: Rex Rammell never advocated “defunding every aspect of our government.” What Rex Rammell advocated was defunding all “unconstitutional federal programs and mandates”. He clearly said, “We will fund only the federal programs that are Constitutional.” There is quite a difference. Rex, and tens of thousands of others in this state, believe that it is not legal to tax the people to pay for things that are unconstitutional. He believes in fiscal and personal responsiblity.
As part of upholding our Constitution, Rex Rammell defends the Bill of Rights as it was written to protect the people from an overreaching federal government. It is the first of those rights that give you the right to spew the things you do here. Rex Rammell believes that if there are parts of the Constitution that the people disagree with then they should work towards amending the Constitution, not violate it. Along with your 1st Amendment right to free speech comes other amendments including the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms and the 10th Amendment states’ rights. Rex Rammell stated that the introduction of the Canadian Grey Wolf by USFWS was a direct violation of the 10th Amendment and that he supported their removal under Constitutional terms. What Rex Rammell had stated in his campaign speeches on how he would address the wolf issue in Idaho is exactly what Governor Otter has recently implemented. That is to order the state Fish & Game department not to manage the wolves, not to fund the management of the wolves or enforce any of the USFWS orders relating to the wolves.
And lastly, yes I know several families in the area that home school their children and I hold a tremendous amount of respect for them. The home schooled children I know for the most part are far more advanced than those taught in public schools. They have more respect for their parents and others and are much better mannered. There are always exceptions and this is not intended to be a blanket statement as I know there are parents out there who have taken a very proactive role in their children’s education and upbringing but overall, they are not the majority. I am not ashamed to say that I wished I would have been home schooled and that I wished I would have home schooled my own children. But again, I fail to see the correlation between my friendship with homeschool families and it being ok to be stalked by wolves? Maybe it’s that public education I had that prevents me from being able to connect those dots.
NoEcoNazis on November 30 at 8:01 a.m.
Wolves are a fake endangered species. Only a Michael Vic wannabe support wolves sick twisted vile evil people that worship the wolves as they kill dogs in front of children. Slaughter off the game animals and as a documented FACT KILLS and eats people. Wolf lovers need prison time for the fraud they have done to our wildlife. Metro sexual wimp men and immature women are in the wolf cult they spread this cancer across America hiding all the attacks on people. Then Defenders of Wildlife the greedy scumbags making 10 of Millions of dollars off the wolf laugh all the way to the bank.
beams on November 30 at 8:43 a.m.
An outfitter thinking they’re an expert, priceless. More like an armchair biologist.
NoEcoNazis on November 30 at 8:45 a.m.
What does Charles Manson, the Unabomber and Dave Foreman have to do with Wolves. They are all Eco Nazi that hate people who work the land. Dave Foreman former editor of Earth First a far left wing extreme radical group. Dave Foreman was convicted of trying to buy thermite grenades from undercover FBI agent to take down the Nations electric grid. A real wacko. But only in America can a convicted terrorist be hired by the corrupt Forest service to do a study on the Mexican Spotted owl to put thousands of loggers out of work in Reserve NM. Dave Foreman is working with the radical Wolf cult to spread the wolves across America. He is quote as saying 100 million people in the world is a good goal. Like Stalin Hitler and Mao these sick twisted pervert people want to slaughter off BILLIONS of people. So if you support the wolves and these people you are just as guilty as if you were supporting Hitler Stalin or MAO.
beams on November 30 at 8:49 a.m.
kcal, you were exposed for being an anti-wolf activist. It’s normal to be afraid of nature. What happens if you see a bobcat or a bear or a mountain lion (yes outfitter, people do you see mountain lions sometimes) sometime down the line? I reckon it won’t get your name in the papers like this alledged so called wolf attack.
NoEcoNazis on November 30 at 8:51 a.m.
You mean you trusted the exposed liars that work for the Goverment LOL biologist that have been exposed as liars and fraud LOL now that is priceless.
NoEcoNazis on November 30 at 8:56 a.m.
BEAMS you are exposed as being a member of the wolf cult who do you work for Defenders of Wildlife are you helping to hide all the wolf attacks on people here is a list for you anti human nutcases of documented wolf attacks on PEOPLE. . Note: This is just a partial list. http://www.savewesternwildlife.org/
Wolf Attack Canada
Wolf attack has sides lining up again over wolf control
WOLVES KILL CARETAKER IN A CANADIAN FOREST AND WILDLIFE RESERVE
Child killed in wolf attack in Russia’s Far East
Georgian villagers armed for self-defenses against wolves
Afghan Wolf Attacks
Homeless man eaten by wolves in Iran
India Fighting Plague Of Man-Eating Wolves
Wolf Attacks in Georgia Lead Villagers to Seek License to Kill
Wolf pack kills moose calf
Wolf Attacks Spur MN Rancher To Sell
Wolf Encounters Lead To Fear In Ely
Rabid Wolf Attacks Hunter
Boy is injured by wolf dog used for teaching
Beast at Large: Wolf attacks bring fear to villagers
Attacking wolf pack encourages heightened pet owner awareness
Wolf hybrid kills grandson, 5
WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW CAN KILL YOU!!! Wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!
Port Moody kayaker fights off starving, predatory wolf
B.C. senior sustains bruises in wolf attack
Six injured in rare wolf attack
Dog saves family from wolf attack
Ontario man killed in wolf attack, coroner’s jury finds
More Wolf Attacks in Idaho And Minnesota
4 wolves viciously attacked and killed school teacher 2010
Can we stop lying about how wolves don’t attack people? I am searching for more attacks that I know of like the guy in Wisconsin who had to use a chain saw to keep a pack of wolves off of him. There are all kinds of attacks that you never even hear about. The Eco Nazis play games with the search engines to keep you from finding out the truth about wolves. That is why I keep track of the attacks on the forum so we can keep our own records proving all the lies that the Eco Nazi’s tell the public about the “so called” rare wolf attacks. Just by reading that list, does it look rare to you? Only a fool would believe these are the only attacks that have happened to people! How many more never get reported or changed to a different animal due to the parent worrying about going to jail from saving their child from a bloodthirsty killer wolf attack.What about the expert you are NOT allowed to hear about on the Mainstream News?
outfitter88 on November 30 at 9:16 a.m.
Yes, Beams….Unlike you who watch wildlife from where your little box called a T.V. LOL
We are once again not talking about walking in the woods. We are talking about walking down ones Driveway.
Oh, that’s right, You need only to ‘Clap your hands when wolves are in your face”, Correct Beams.
Your Lies are becoming exposed and your Wolf cult is becoming exposed. Your little puppy dog doesn’t mind to well does it.
We are starting to see you and your Tool for what it meant all a long. IF it was truly about The Wolf, your group would have stopped when we had 150 wolves. But NO, We are finding out that you are about ENDING ranching and hunting in Idaho. End of story! Enough where the big groups are now saying, Whoa, wait a minute. Your group is VERY good about Lying to the American People.
The bottom line is Wolves Will when they get used to people, Hurt someone. This has been shown the case in Alaska, When wolves see humans as an easier prey source. THEN WHAT!!!
Maybe, the wolf cult will slither off back in your Gutters.
Of course most of your group will be safe due to your lack of even not living in this state.
Get a Grip people. The Woman was on PRIVATE PROPERTY….She has a RIGHT to be safe walking down her DRIVEWAY…Oh, BEAMS…LOL A bobcat, Really…LMAO….
NoEcoNazis on November 30 at 9:27 a.m.
Here is just one instance of wolves killing in history that so called experts today LIED to the American people and told them it never happen. Exposed LIARS need prison time for the wolf fraud.
Janesville Gazette, The 11-19-1891 St Paul Minnesota 3 children killed and ate by wolves. These are the large vicious gray wolves from Northern Minnesota. The pack was saw fighting over the remains of the 3 children. The children had wandered into the woods. Men taking a shortcut found the wolves and left to get help. Upon returning with a number of armed men the beast would not leave until 2 were shot.
Over 15 eyewitness only in corrupt America can fake “so called” wolf experts tell the public there has never been a documented wolf attack in North America. If we had real journalist today they would do an investigated report on who is making BILLIONS off the wolf fraud.
beams on November 30 at 9:29 a.m.
The american people have spoke and they wanted wolves reintroduced. Where were you 1995? I bet no protesting the reintroduction of wolves. They have had 15 years to get used to people and guess what, not one human death outfitter. Explain that if you can. If the wolves wanted this lady, they would have her. I have no doubt if this lady saw a bobcat, she would probably freak out and claim it tried to attack her when all it was walking past her. We expect people like you to come out and lie thru your teeth and when this happen, we will crush you with the truth and cold hard facts.
wolfslippers on November 30 at 9:44 a.m.
KCAL-The entire point that needs to be focused on here is that the public needs to be on aware of the wolves when going outside in rural areas. They need to supervise their children’s outdoor activities and carry a gun to protect themselves. Had I had a gun on me I could have scared them off with a few shots. Secondly, our media outlets need to be proactive in providing the public with safety tips on what to do and what not to do should you encounter wolves, a very real possiblity in Idaho.<
In every state that the Canadian wolves have been released or migrate, this will be the outcome, wolves will slaughter off the game herds and then turn to whatever is easiest to kill. In Arizona where the USFWS released a a mutt that they bred up and called the Mexican Gray wolf, locals have had to build cages for their children to stand in as they wait for the school bus. More wolf-human encounters have been happening in Idaho and will continue to happen because of an over population of wolves and not enuough prey to support them. It is important that the public be made aware of the potential reality and danger of wolf attacks.
Bob_Knows on November 30 at 11:04 a.m.
We live a way south of Spokane in rural Washington. Its actually only a few miles from the location of this story. I’m wondering how long it will take wolves to migrate into this part of Washington? The large elk herds, wandering deer herds, and large musters of turkeys may soon be in peril.
maria on November 30 at 12:23 p.m.
I think this is what KCAL is really scared her children might turn into.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7PFhI3RR_k
outfitter88 on November 30 at 12:27 p.m.
What facts would that be BEAM…The fact that Congress didn’t want the wolves here in Idaho, So the IDFG and Jamie Rappaport at the head of USFWS Illegal STOLE the Funds from hunters to introduce wolves here in Idaho.
Lies that are getting exposed my dear.
maria on November 30 at 12:29 p.m.
KCAL, It is the Supreme Court’s job to interpret the constitution, not Rammel’s. That’s why HE DIDN’T GET ELECTED. He is also not liked very well in the Veterinary community where he’s considered a joke by some of state’s top vets and researchers. You’re quite laughable, as well.
maria on November 30 at 12:36 p.m.
You weren’t being stalked. You interpreted it that way because you’re paranoid and you wanted attention. Funny how this kind of stuff comes back around to bite you. Really, I wish those wolves had taken just a little bite. It would make your story more believable. But you have absolutely no proof that this happened. No pics, no paw molds, nadda.
Remember this:
NEVER CRY WOLF
maria on November 30 at 12:49 p.m.
You wolf haters would save more lives by campaigning against drunk drivers. Really, you shouldn’t be eating big game animals in Idaho anyhow. That chronic wasting disease can’t be cooked out and it makes you go insane. Seriously it’s prolific in idaho game. Be careful. Maybe you’ve already caught the circling disease. Get in to see a doctor immediately if you suspect any mental lapses or if you find yourself staying up late at night trying to cover up imaginary wolf tracks.
maria on November 30 at 1:19 p.m.
What someone wrote in another thread:
“Me and Izzy were out with the homeys, fresh smell of 3 dozen elk in the hood, dusk coming, when we can see better than they can (and sneak up good), and here comes this weird old ewe UP ON ITS BACK LEGS, coming up the road in the snow.
Thank GOD there were four of us, that thing was scary. Some kind of glow stick it kept putting up the side of its face, bleating like no sheep *I’ve* ever heard before.
Then it CALLED to us, if you can believe that. Like we were going to just saunter down the road and get ourselves kicked in the head? Izzy actually got sucked in at first, started to follow after it, but we finally got him to his senses. We’re a damn PACK, not a herd.
We made off into the trees, and I say we stay away from that place. We can wait for the elk to move on and follow ‘em. Too creepy.”
KCAL on November 30 at 1:49 p.m.
Funny you bring up drunk drivers Maria. Several years back my family and I were hit head-on by a drunk driver with a blood alcohol level over 4 times the legal limit. One of my daughters broke her neck, another her back and I am left with permanent injuries after 8 years of operations. Oddly enough, there is certainly a glaring similarity between the two seemingly unrelated events. As part of his defense in that event, the drunk driver charged that my husband, who was driving our car, should be held equally at fault because had he not been on the road we wouldn’t have been hit. He was audacious enough to suggest that it was an accepted risk because we know there are drunk drivers on the road at any given time. Seems eerily similar to your charge.
Your statement, “I wish those wolves had taken just a little bite” is probably the most honest thing you have said so far and speaks volumes about your agenda. I personally do not care if you believe me or not. What I do care about is that people, regardless of whether they are conservative, liberal or independent, and regardless of what affiliations they may have, or religious beliefs, are warned of the danger that is clearly present and I care that forewarned knowledge might be able to prevent at least one person from being killed by these dangerous predators. You see Maria, I would feel just as bad if a liberal was killed as I would if a conservative was killed and I cannot comprehend wishing anyone be bitten by a wolf.
It has come to my attention (since my encounter) that relatively close neighbors to me have had very recent human encounters with wolves and that some of their animals have been killed. Had their accounts been made public as they should have, I would have never walked down my driveway unarmed. That is what public safety alerts are for. It is alarming that people such as yourself are fighting so hard to keep public safety information from the public. I pray that God softens your heart for human compassion.
maria on November 30 at 3:11 p.m.
Oh please. Spare me. If you can’t live with the wolves then move into a city. You’ll find a much more dangerous type of wolf there, I assure you. The wolves are everywhere now and you can never get rid of all of them. Your neighbors probably got reimbursed for their lost stock…or was it even proven that’s what happened? Talk about “personal responsibility”, you can’t arm yourself with a gun or even some pepper spray? Hell, you’d probably shoot yourself in the foot. Those wolves didn’t touch you and you know it. They wanted NOTHING to do with you once they saw and smelled what you were. Honestly, I think you made the whole story up. You have NO proof it happened.
NEVER CRY WOLF
maria on November 30 at 3:22 p.m.
And since you actually did get hurt by a drunk driver I would think that is where you’d focus your fight, not on some make-believe fantasy big bad wolves on your long driveway out in the sticks where you choose to live. You should have stayed with your husband all along, Ms. “Personal Responsibilty”. But no, this was the perfect opportunity for you to concoct a scary story to tell the press. If you did see the wolves, it’s too bad you couldn’t just have just admired them with awe at their beauty and intelligence. Buck up or get out of the woods. You have absolutely no credibility. Plus, you should have called 911 first if you felt so threatened. I bet you’re afraid of you own shadow. BOO!
beams on November 30 at 4:11 p.m.
Karen, how’s your buddy Rex Rammell doing? I heard he got caught poaching an elk.
maria on November 30 at 4:16 p.m.
Seriously?!
maria on November 30 at 4:21 p.m.
Yep, Rammelltard is in big trouble!
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/11/30/1437856/warden-confiscates-elk-from-rex.html
maria on November 30 at 4:23 p.m.
God’s candidate thinks he can do whatever he wants, apparently!
http://wolves.wordpress.com/2006/10/03/rex-rammell-is-arrested-on-obstruction-of-justice-charge/
maria on November 30 at 5:19 p.m.
KCAL and Rex Rammell also are friends with this group:
“Don’t Buy Idaho Hunting Tags”
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dont-buy-Idaho-hunting-tags/160215737339597?v=wall#!/pages/Dont-buy-Idaho-hunting-tags/160215737339597
Geezus.
IdahoRoper on November 30 at 8:03 p.m.
So Maria, you say “deal with it”, and I am sure if she would have been armed and rightfully busted a cap in these dogs a$$ and dealt with it. You would be on here claiming she should be given the death sentence for ‘murdering’ a wolf. People like you are truly the swill of the American population. You have no facts, only claims and demeaning of a situation you have no knowledge of. So, Maria, don’t be whining when someone over here takes your advice.
Have any of you people who live completely out of wolf country ever wonder why those of us who live with them, really don’t care for them? How many of you would call 911 over a loose pitbull in your neighborhood, I am betting the vast majority. I always find it interesting how easy it is to marginalize a situation that has no direct impact on you.
People like Beams who believe that people who have no impact should be left to decide how those who are impacted have to deal with their opinions is so typical of this society that has completely forgotten the first true document of this nation……pick up a history book Beams, remember that little part about a RIGHT to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Your support for the simple majority would have turned the stomach’s of our founders.
And to Mr. Landers, kudos for the public service of exposing the dangers those who live with wolves have to deal with, it may just save a rural citizens life. The pro wolf faction is only bent out of shape because for decades they have managed to cover up the real dangers of their favorite puppy and just aren’t use to seeing reality about their dogs in print.
And my advice to those who live anywhere outside the city limits, anywhere in Idaho…take Maria’s advice, deal with this menace, to go unarmed in this state is no longer a safe thing to do.
bloodysunday on November 30 at 8:06 p.m.
did yah know kcal is only a hundred feet from the next driveway where 5 guys live who can see all this unfold if it did? And they got a JD plow, 2 great Pyrenees dog’s, and lights, and phones also , did they call them, they have their cell #’s ? no.. and did the neighbors directly next to them have snow problems? no…they did not as Saturday was a mild slow wind day and little accumulation 2 inches of snow there.. huh…hec the neighbors did not even plow their driveway that day. and since kcal’s drive way was plowed for them at least twice why did eds 4 x 4 truck have to turn around… I smell dirty socks here folks…
and did rammel really pouch a elk ..lol… just like the bankrupt bastard that he is..just trying to feed his family in that huge motor home …
Oh and by the way K cal’s driveway is not your suburban driveway its is 1/4 mile through the field edge and on the game trails for the elk..and associated predators. I think she would now this and be packin or not walkin about after dark..
bloodysunday on November 30 at 8:35 p.m.
And since your wondering, after Kcal and others attended the eradicate wolves meeting in Tensed Senior citizens building last month I think this was under way to electrify the press . I am not a wolf lover by any means and have trepidations about them as I have been out in the woods and fields and aware that I may be a good lunch item or not. But to use the trumped up story and made up reality to target a species that I have seen in our area and yet I have not witnessed if they are causing any real harm, and yes I have cattle also and have watched them closely and not had any thing outside of the normal loses each year. that is to say calf’s born and dying of defects, heifers dying in birth and calcium collapse. But the norm also is that the next day the corpses are eaten out from the hind ends where coyotes and others from ravens and buzzards and wolves probably eat first just juicier and bloody parts. So cowgirls claims are to me more natural losses since she runs near to four hundred head and to shift the blame to wolves is premature when calf and cow do die cowgirl and predators or carrion eat them up. As for elk depredation , sure they eat the carcasses, but who was the lame shot who wounded the Elk in the first place where he ran off and the hunter did not follow? So many road hunters and so many wounded dying animals finding a place to die where they become the food for the packs of coyote or flock of raven. I see it all around the area and when you see a flock of black ravens circling and roosting there is a kill near by.
maria on November 30 at 8:48 p.m.
IdahoRoper, you’re wrong. I do live in wolf country and I am a registered voter in Idaho. We camp near Elk City in the summers and watch over our dogs and family members closely while we’re up there as well as when we hike in hills behind our house. It’s called “Personal Responsibility”. We live outside Orofino and hear wolves all the time. They don’t scare us because we are prepared.
camark on November 30 at 11:00 p.m.
This would almost be funny if it weren’t so sad. The fact that people expect nature to just disappear the moment they take up residence in the woods is just beyond me. So now wild animals are expected to observe a human’s right to feel safe on their property? What next, should the snow stop because it makes the property owner feel unsafe? Maybe the grass should stop growing too….
reloadrosebud on November 30 at 11:07 p.m.
I want everyone to pay close attention to how this blog is progressing. Pay close attention to Bloody Sunday, he is exposed as the peculiar neighbors on Moses Mountain for good reasons. Neighbors on Moses Mountain are appalled that these men would have the cowardice to defame Karen Calisterio because she doesn’t agree with their political point of views and strange lifestyle choices, that don’t fit in with a conservative neighborhood.
I will tell you we are 99% behind Karen Calisterio in this neighborhood, and many people had to find out about this even through the Montana newspaper. We’re also very relieved that Karen is safe!
This blog has caused a huge storm in this neighborhood, and people are watching how IDFG and this paper are handling this information carefully, because all of us have had similar situations as Karens. Not only is the neighborhood watching the entire state of Idaho is paying attention, including legislatures.
I will also vouge that it was snowing hard Saturday night, I have no idea what BloodySunday and his “friends” were doing, but Karen doesn’t have their cell numbers. If she did do you think they’re the type of neighbors “we” would count on now?
This story is not over. Neighbors have called in Karen supporting her and giving her well wishes, and thanking her for doing the right thing.
Bloody Sunday you just tore Moses Mountains broken back. I can guarantee you that Cowgirl, will not be happy to read that you are also calling her a liar.
maria on November 30 at 11:38 p.m.
So I take it liberals and democrats aren’t welcome on your brokeback mountain? That’s sweet.
maria on November 30 at 11:40 p.m.
And the word is “vouch”, not “vouge”. Lol.
reloadrosebud on December 01 at 1:04 a.m.
For you Maria if you would like to come out here and take a walk alone at 4:35 p.m. with a cell phone, no ammo we will all watch you make eye contact with the wolves. Once you have made contact, we will give you 18 minutes of time with them. You can make a call on your cell-phone and we will give you the same amount of time with them, as Karen had by herself in the middle of a snowstorm.
Bring your woolen coat.
reloadrosebud on December 01 at 1:08 a.m.
For you Bloody Sunday, “what a name” your lights were out Saturday night, so we expect you had a busy evening.
maria on December 01 at 1:42 a.m.
Are you a peeping rosebud? Shame on you!
KCAL on December 01 at 2:29 a.m.
Re: bloodysunday’s comment, “And since your wondering, after Kcal and others attended the eradicate wolves meeting in Tensed Senior citizens building last month I think this was under way to electrify the press.”
FYI… the only meeting I attended in Tensed (or am even aware was held) was the Benewah County Republican Party Town Hall Meet ‘n Greet on September 15th, where all GOP candidates for Benewah County and District 2 offices came to speak and answer questions to any and all citizens who cared enough to show-up. And this was held at the Community Center, not the senior citizen center. How you twist and contort a candidates forum into an “eradicate wolves meeting” further exposes your agenda. So if any citizen dares ask their legislator or legislative candidate a question about the wolves it is suddenly a conspiracy event?
misjustice on December 01 at 9:49 a.m.
Geez, to all these scardy cats living in the wilds of Ideeho, get a clue! The wolves were there first. If ya’ll can’t stomach the “danger” of living in the wild move into town.
The woman in this story is pathetic. Oh, what should I do, what should I do? CRY? Really? CRY? And use your cell phone? Well, that will scare the bejesus out of the wolves!
And what is it with you geeks on this thread trying to “out” our Maria? Just because she disagrees with ya’ll? Really?
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misjustice on December 01 at 10:27 a.m.
Thank you, Scott.
We can disagree on a subject without attempting to “out” commenters which want to keep their identities shrouded. I choose to post under my avatar identity because I own a business and I would not want my private musings to impact my professional life. I often take unpopular positions on the stories of the day; it is my right to expect that my privacy will not be compromised just because my position on a given subject riles other readers/commenters.
maria on December 01 at 10:44 a.m.
Thank you, Mis J ;}
misjustice on December 01 at 10:56 a.m.
No prob, Maria.
; )
maria on December 01 at 11:39 a.m.
You have been reported to the sheriff’s office for harassing me. And Scott, too.