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December 2, 2011 in City
Sullivan plans to file recall charges against Tucker
Shannon Sullivan, who led a successful recall of the late Spokane Mayor Jim West in 2005, has a new target: Spokane County Prosecuting Attorney Steve Tucker.
Sullivan said Thursday she plans to file recall charges today accusing Tucker of malfeasance, misfeasance and violation of his oath of office, citing primarily his reluctance to intervene in cases of police misconduct.
Sullivan said she strongly believes in holding public officials accountable. She showed it in her gutsy, high-profile campaign that unseated West.
“This is a recall about Tucker not doing his job,” she said.
Tucker is out of the country and unavailable for comment, according to his office.
The recall charges cite several controversial positions by Tucker, including his decision not to file criminal charges in the police beating and death of janitor Otto Zehm in 2006 at a North Division Street convenience store. The U.S. Justice Department on Nov. 2 persuaded a federal jury to convict Spokane police Officer Karl Thompson of excessive use of force and lying to cover up the crime.
The charges allege that Zehm’s death resulted in “a well-planned and blatant cover up by public officials of a police-involved homicide.”
Three other charges are also being leveled against Tucker.
Sullivan alleges in the document that Tucker has made at least one statement during a public appearance that he would never prosecute a police officer or public employee.
Sullivan said in the charges that it appears Tucker “basically told a group of his potential supporters that they would be immune from prosecution.”
Sullivan also alleges malfeasance in Tucker’s failure to prosecute former Spokane firefighter Dan Ross following Ross’ sexual encounter with a 16-year-old girl in a city firehouse. During the incident, Ross took photos of the partially naked girl, but the photos were not retained by detectives.
The incident was initially reported as a rape by the girl’s boyfriend.
Tucker also has given a plea-bargain deal to a man facing seven counts of first-degree assault for firing shots into a Spokane home two years ago, narrowly missing two sleeping toddlers. Tucker is seeking to reduce the charges to two misdemeanor counts of reckless endangerment in exchange for a guilty plea, but the judge in the case has so far refused to accept the plea.
After Sullivan files the charges with the county auditor, a ballot synopsis would be written by a state attorney general. Within 15 days of the filing, a Superior Court judge would have to find the charges sufficient to send the petition out for signature gathering.
Sullivan said she collaborated with a number of supporters in drafting the charges.
Auditor Vicky Dalton said the recall would need more than 42,700 signatures of registered county voters to force a countywide election, which could force Tucker from office.
The petitioners would have a little more than six months to gather signatures if the court approves the synopsis, not counting time for a possible appeal of the charges by Tucker.
In a prepared statement, Sullivan said that Tucker “has abused his office consistently, disrespecting the public with his deceitful manipulations of facts and evidence.”
“He has enjoyed a free hand to engage in corrupt activity, collecting only evidence that is favorable to his own self-serving position.”
The recall of West in 2005 followed a series of investigative reports in The Spokesman-Review that detailed West’s offers of gifts or city positions in exchange for sex to young men he had met online.
West died in 2006 after battling cancer for several years. His death came from complications following surgery.
This version of the story has been changed to reflect that the charges identify one instance where Tucker said he would not prosecute a police officer or public employee.
Returning farmland to a state of nature 
Slightlyworried on December 02 at 12:08 a.m.
What a surprise! Local golf courses close and Tucker grabs his clubs and leaves the country. I feel sorry for the wait staff down at the Globe Tavern now that their best customer is gone on vacation.
Shadedmuse on December 02 at 1:28 a.m.
Steve tucker has been elected three times voters in Spokane like steve tucker their for he will survive a recall because Spokane will support the republican even if the republicans run a ham sandwich for prosecuter, I voted for give them hell malone, but that doesnt matter voters will vote for the reoublican like steve tucker.
Dazzeetrader1980 on December 02 at 2:25 a.m.
Dazzeetrader1980 on December 02 at 12:15 a.m.
From the Spokesman May 2, 2005
I …. May 2, 2005 Spokesman…
“Sullivan, the woman who filed paperwork Monday to start a recall effort against West, pleaded guilty last year to intimidation with a dangerous weapon.
According to court documents, the conviction against Sullivan arose after police investigated a drive-by shooting in September 2003 at a north Spokane address. Police found that four rounds had been fired at parked vehicle, and one of those rounds also hit the home.
Records indicate that the day after the shooting, Sullivan turned herself in and confessed to police that she shot the vehicle. In pleading guilty, she wrote that the incident involved a dispute with a friend over the tires on the car.”
“I did the wrong thing in the incident and the very next morning got up and took responsibility for it,” Sullivan said. “I made a grave, terrible mistake and acknowledged that at the time. …I don’t feel that that has any reflection on anything to do with my petition for the mayor.”
Yikes again!
She is beginning to sound a bit nutty….who knows? Asks for some forgiveness but doesn’t seem to give any. Tsk tsk tsk… I hope Tucker ducks! My old town is sounding crazier by the minute…
Truthbtold on December 02 at 6:12 a.m.
I Am NOT going to get into an argument here. I simply don’t have the time. But I will say the FACTS!
I am not an elected official whom has sworn to up hold the law. Yes, I broke it, and then did the right thing. FYI, my son was threatened and I over reacted.
Maybe you could post by your real name? I am sure we all have things we are not proud of.
But Tucker is an elected official who needs to be held accountable. Sorry if you disagree.
Oh, thanks for sling mud at me, like it’s not hard enough to tackle this so you and the community can have a vote!!!
brianrbreen on December 02 at 6:33 a.m.
@ShannonSullivan
Ms. Sullivan. I think it is very important for you to understand that Dazzee and me belong to a very select group of individuals who throughout our lives have never made a mistake. Therefore it is almost impossible for us to forgive and forget.
philipgregory on December 02 at 7:06 a.m.
Hurrah!
Truth_and_Justice on December 02 at 7:12 a.m.
@ ShannonSullivan
No ma’am, I think it’s you who miss the point. It is not slinging mud to point out the hypocrisy of someone complaining about a plea deal that is strikingly similar to one she herself previously benefited from. Oh, by the way, there was a vote a year ago and all of this stuff looks like old news to me.
JBlim on December 02 at 7:15 a.m.
Dazee says “She is beginning to sound a bit nutty…”
Is that an ironic comment or what? Wow . . .
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 7:22 a.m.
Truth and Justice,
Yes there was an election. The electorate was uninformed. Since then the US Attorney’s Office successfully prosecuted Ofc. Thompson and exposed an overt cover-up that extends not only to high ranking police officials, the Offices of the City Attorney and Mayor but to the Office of the County Prosecutor as well. Read the federal proffer of April 2010 for a thumbnail sketch of just how extensive this cover-up was. This cost Mayor Verner the election because of her disingenuous statements re the Zehm case to the voters. The voters voted her out of office.
I’m not saying that Tucker obstructed justice but his inaction in pursuing this case under existing state law - negligent homicide/manslaughter, is a matter for public debate whether he abdicated his office and violated his sworn duty to the people of Spokane. This is a legitimate matter for the voters to decide if and when there is a recall election. Tucker still has three years left in his term. Think of it this way his inaction has cost and will cost taxpayers millions of dollars. In the Zehm case alone the damages are likely to exceed $10M.
Ms. Sullivan is human and has made mistakes. Please don’t kill the messenger. Tucker needs to be recalled.
Shelala on December 02 at 7:28 a.m.
I am not a fan of Tucker, but not a fan of Shannon either. I don’t care what domestic dispute she was involved in, I have a problem with anyone illegally using a firearm in trying to settle a dispute. I think before anyone mounts such a controversial recall effort, they should take a good hard look within and ask themselves if they are the person for the job. I don’t think she is. She just adds to the controversy and just places herself in the position of defending herself instead of the task ahead. Pass the torch, Shannon. You intent may be honorable, but the goal may be better achieved by another.
Sadbuttrue on December 02 at 7:33 a.m.
“Records indicate that the day after the shooting, Sullivan turned herself in and confessed to police that she shot the vehicle.”
She obviously has no police training. Had she been a cop, she would have killed someone, lied about it for five years, and launched a massive cover up.
Yes, this certainly disqualifies her from running a recall campaign against one of the officials involved deeply in the coverup.
Doesn’t it?
DeadHandsofChe on December 02 at 7:37 a.m.
@ brianrbreen: Oh come on, the person who is the face of the recall has a recent gross misdemeanor conviction for intimidation with a dangerous weapon. It will make those sympathetic to signing the recall think twice about it.
Most people don’t have criminal convictions, you know that.
In any event,Tucker is a terrible prosecuting attorney and needs to go.
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 8:01 a.m.
For those that don’t know there is another lengthy discussion thread in the previous web post of this article yst:
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/dec/01/recall-effort-will-target-tucker/
Look Tucker needs to be recalled. I’m good with Shannon at least she has the cojones to tell truth to power in this town with many deep dark secrets. For that I give her credit. There are many sheep in this town that cower in fear. It’s time to stand up and quit being victimized over and over again by our elected leaders that will not abide by their oaths of office.
It’s WE THE PEOPLE who consent to be governed. Not the other way around.
Jethro_toll on December 02 at 8:02 a.m.
Sullivan stepped up when no one else dared take on the Mayor of Spokane. Where were you? She didnt sit idly by while the perv was doing his online thing on a City Computer.
That being said, those that live in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing rocks. Who among you is without sin, or have NOT regretted an action taken, or a word spoken?
She pled guilty, did her punishment. She moved on. Why cant you?
Now can she go back to being a hot blond?
Shelala on December 02 at 8:06 a.m.
@sadbuttrue
Don’t get me wrong. I defend Sullivan’s citizen attempt to recall Tucker. I simply think that the goal is to recall Tucker and nothing should cloud that issue. There is a lot of time, effort and money to launch a recall. I would like it to succeed, but question if she is the one to take the lead. If I were in Shannon’s place and truly wanted a change, I would recognize my efforts might be hampered by some past issues (whether I stepped up and took responsibility or not) and ask if my past would detract from achieving results or create controversies of their own. Kudos to her for taking a stand, but bigger kudos to her if she recognizes her own shortcomings and pass the torch for the sake of the cause. i’d like to run a charity marathon, but I know my legs wouldn’t take me there. If you get what I am saying.
Verbal on December 02 at 8:16 a.m.
thanks Shelala - you said exactly what I was thinking, only much more concise.
Sullivan may be brave for doing this, but if she didn’t think her past would not be dredged up again, she is a fool.
usmctpdog on December 02 at 8:20 a.m.
You go girl !! Ms. Sullivan -
More people are behind you than you might currently realize.
D Statler on December 02 at 8:24 a.m.
@shelala, Maybe you and Shanon could work on this together. It sounds like you may be the perfect person to help bring this noble movement forward. I enhaled and am divorced.I probably would get mud slinged at me also. Sometimes the picture is alittle clouded. The end result can be the same. We need a new leader in the Spokane Prosecutors office. Go Shannon! I will help any way I can. God Bless :^)
wdodd on December 02 at 8:29 a.m.
I can definetly say that since the corrupted officials have been exposed and officer Thompson was convicted of a violent crime. All of the officer involved shootings have ceased and come to a screeching halt. Is it because the shield of protection of the SPD/SCSO Has been removed? Then you had the most disrespectful display of the SPD officers in a federal court room
and Steve Tucker basically giving the middle finger to Judge Hayes!
Steve Tucker appears to think that he is above the law and has misused the power of his office. I just wonder how many other cases are ruled justified (OIS) to protect the public officials?
This too will be revealed soon. I guess time will tell and we will have to sit back and watch while the city/county of Spokane
continues to run up millions of dollars to be paid out for their mistakes to the families.
larry_b on December 02 at 8:35 a.m.
@shannon, where is the petition? I need to get my signature on it. Stand tall to the name callers for they also have issues, just have’nt been caught or have admitted it.
johnclarke on December 02 at 8:36 a.m.
Dazzeetrader1980 on December 02 at 2:25 a.m.
“She is beginning to sound a bit nutty….who knows?”
No, a nut would have shot the tires in question. Daisy, what the heck are you doing at 2:25 am calling other people nuts? Seriously get some rest, happy hour comes early.
johnclarke on December 02 at 8:59 a.m.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/mar/26/ex-spokane-firefighter-convicted-of-assault/
So, on the topic of the ex-firefighter/pervert; looks like Tucker had another shot at this guy and did nothing. The first time the thin blue line extended it’s protection to a child molester by allowing him to delete the evidence - the second time …oh wait the CITY should have prosecuted the ex-firefighter pervert.
This is AWESOME. I guess some 16 year girls father will have to deal with this predator, because the law is not dealing with this guy. He needs to be locked up, not evaluated.
Shelala on December 02 at 9:09 a.m.
There are numerous ways to make Tucker accountable and ensure he is acting in accordance to recognized standards. A recall is only one (albeit the harshest). Sometimes the citizens don’t realize the power they can collectively yield against elected officials and public servants. As much as I support Sullivan’s cause, I can’t hitch my wagon to her efforts. There are far too many pitfalls and I believe she could knowingly or unknowingly easily fall into one. As an example, several asked where to donate. Need I remind you of questions regarding accounting of Thompson’s supporters to his legal defense? This is just a simple item, but needs to be considered, I bluntly, don’t want her to represent my opinions and beliefs, but encourage her to represent her own activism. I think when you demand accountability and ethical behavior, you better d***mn well have exhibited those qualities yourself. I would ask her to bow out as a leader before she becomes part of the problem.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 9:11 a.m.
@Ron_the_Cop
I missed your question regarding the Ross case. As far as the public record is concerned, just from memory and you would have to check, but I believe that Steve Tucker stated that because he was a close friend with Sgt. Joe Peterson he left the duty to charge Gallion and Peterson up to the city prosecutor because the issue of tampering with evidence was a misdemeanor.
The problem I have with that is even though I didn’t believe that Gallion or Peterson had any criminal intent, and it was just a matter of very poor investigative process, Tucker’s decision to allow the City Prosecutor to decide was at best dumb, because of the obvious conflict of interest the City Attorney’s office had, in that they would be required to defend any civil litigation that was brought against the City and at the same time make a charging decision regarding the two officers. The problem is that the case can be made that of course the City Attorney isn’t going to charge the officers because that would mean admitting liability. Someone could also make the case that because Tucker and Peterson were close friends, that is why he did it. In my view the smart move especially given the public outcry would have been to ship it off to another close by county prosecutor with no interest in the outcome. That would have been a lot better for the officers as well because the issue would have been reviewed by an independent prosecutorial authority.
As far as the law suit is concerned, if I remember correctly, Rocco was successful in having the City dismissed from the suit, however Ross was not dismissed, and I don’t think Gallion and Peterson were named in the suit. I think Hippo has a good point regarding the federal law suit, but again putting the charging decision in the hands of the City Attorney in my view was pretty dumb. I also remember that Ross was charged after the law suit was dismissed on a similar case with a 16 year old girl that happened while he was still a firefighter. That case went back and forth for almost a year between the City Attorney’s Office and the County Prosecutors Office before it was finally charged by the County and only after the media stuck their nose in. The reason I remember that is because Tucker himself didn’t explain it to the media why this happened and he pushed it off to a DPA.
Now, from the perspective of my agenda, which is credible police oversight, at no time should any criminal cases involving a city employee no matter what they are be allowed in the hands of the City Attorney’s Office because of the conflict, and there is no legitimate argument otherwise. Until such time as the Spokane County Prosecutor takes an active role in legitimate and credible police oversight it ain’t going to happen.
valleyman on December 02 at 9:18 a.m.
Ms. Sullivan and others:
1) What has changed since the last election besides the conviction of Karl Thompson? Did you not all feel exactly the same way then about Tucker as you do now?
Ron, to claim the electorate was uninformed then, but suddenly is informed now is disingenuous. You know better. Ignorance cannot be used as an excuse for one’s actions, and if you want to say the electorate was ignorant in their reelection of Tucker, then you better be prepared to give folks a freebie when they say “I didn’t know that doing that was illegal.” If the voters were either apathetic or uniformed, it’s their own fault. The recall system is not a ‘do-over’ it is meant to be used to throw someone out after serious malfeasance. Are you and others prepared to go after ANY politician that fits the “morally weak” category?
2) Ms. Sullivan directly - how can you possibly square accusing Tucker of judicial malfeasance when you benefited personally from the EXACT deal he is offering to another individual? Prosecutors are offered prosecutorial discretion in order to do the most justice for society. Do you really want to force Tucker or any other prosecutors to go for the max each and every time and be hamstrung from using any real-world mercy?
3) Perhaps the reason Tucker didn’t get voted out last time was that folks like me didn’t vote for his opponent because we simply didn’t like what he was saying, trusted him less than Tuckers, or simply wanted to keep Tucker where he was? You can’t exactly say turnout was low for the election, now can you???
4) You might get the signatures you need, but the courts aren’t going to sign off, because you have no evidence of any of your charges. Sour grapes doesn’t get your recall on the ballot.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 9:21 a.m.
@deadhands
I’m not condoning her actions. I was only pointing out we all make mistakes, and she at least had the guts to admit it, something that isn’t easy for everyone to do.
I don’t even know the women.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 9:32 a.m.
@johnclarke
That’s the one I was thinking about, but there was another story pre-trial that I remember that “Bad Hands O’Brien” was stuck trying to explain why it went back and forth between the City and County prosecutor for almost a year.
Shelala on December 02 at 9:35 a.m.
@Brian
I don’t know her either, but firing a weapon into a parked car is not negated by a “oops my bad” or speaks well of anyone’s actions during stressful situations.Owning up to mistakes doesn’t make them less of an issue, just allows for more personal growth. Ask anyone in Walla Walla.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 9:40 a.m.
@johnclarke
Found it.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2008/nov/11/ross-charges-were-delayed/
brianrbreen on December 02 at 9:46 a.m.
@Shelala
What do you want me to do, I’m not apologizing for her, and yes whoever the group involved in this is should have thought about who is out front and what might happen.
As far as Walla Walla is concerned when I did do some asking down there I didn’t see a lot of real personal growth.
Shelala on December 02 at 9:56 a.m.
@Brian
Now, was that so hard? You like the big pictures and I like the nit picky details.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 9:58 a.m.
@Shelala
Hell of a team! :)
EthicsinLE on December 02 at 10:32 a.m.
I don’t believe a recall is warranted. I have read Ms. Sullivan’s complaint at the KXLY site and it is completely ridiculous. I would encourage you all to read it. Some of it is based on Ron Wright and his “undisclosed” source, who Ron says told him some information. This “undisclosed” source lacks any credibility and there is no evidence to show this is even a real person. I would feel different if the source was named and able to be asked questions directly. Ms. Sullivan complains of a plea bargain made by the prosecutor’s office, yet she took advantage of one in her own criminal drive by shooting charges in 2003. Mr. Wright is more concerned with promoting his new private investigators business and himself.
There are allegations that Mr. Tucker made public comments that he would never prosecute a police officer. Are you serious? Mr. Tucker has prosecuted several officers, including Jay Olson, Brad Thoma, Mehring, Harvey, Pierson and many others. If any of you believe Tucker said at an open meeting he would not prosecute an officer, you’re an idiot. Mr. Tucker bases his decisions on the EVIDENCE and FACTS, not personal opinion, bias, media reports, emotion, etc..
A prosecutor’s job is to objectively look at the facts and evidence and decide if there is enough to charge and obtain a conviction. They are not to consider, emotion, public or media opinion, bias, “opinion” or sentiment. Mr. Tucker has done just that, remain objective and consider the FACTS and EVIDENCE. Too many in the community believe charges should be filed based on emotion, personal opinion, bias or other “opinions”. That is not how the law works. Mr. Tucker has done a GREAT job of applying the law, legal and ethical requirements of the prosecutor’s office. He was elected 3 times by the voters, which tells me we the citizens are happy with the job he is doing. The minority whiners will whine and complain until they get the person THEY want.
zelda on December 02 at 10:39 a.m.
Hmm, well, shooting out the tires of your ex-husband’s car shows at certain um, er, lapse of judgement and anger control problem.
But I hope things aren’t so bad in Spokane that we have to call upon the Dali Lama anytime we want to take on an elected nincompoop. Shannon has name recognition from the West recall and I have to say that it takes zeal and moxie to do this. Anyone who runs for public office nowadays has personality quirks and that applies to people who ask for a recall. It’s just a matter of how much public abuse you want to subject yourself to.
Shannon doesn’t necessarily have to be the leader as this moves forward. I’d rather that a team of qualified people come together to lead this instead of it looking like a one-woman show. Even if it’s not successful, it will air information about Tucker that wasn’t widely known and maybe he won’t run for re-election again to be Prosecutor For Life.
Meanwhile, in the wake of the Thompson case, isn’t there more that the DOJ might be doing as far as investigation and further charges? Maybe the U.S. Attorney might drag Tucker down along with a couple of other SPD officers who were involved in Zehm’s death and the cover-up.
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 10:47 a.m.
Valleyman,
The allegations for a recall only have to be approved as to the legal sufficiency and format. You don’t have to prove these charges. Read the allegations. It’s the voters who are the trier of fact. Read Brian’s assessment of the Ross case. Do you see any similarity between the Ross and Zehm case re Tucker hiding in the weeds to avoid making a decision? It took the feds to get their nose under the tent in the Zehm case that exposed the extensive over cover-up by high governmental officials. Tucker had a duty and responsibility to act on behalf of the people. He’s still in the weeds and can’t be found.
As to Shannon can we all bury the hatchet? As I said in the other thread -
Look can we all just get along:-)
This is all about getting Tucker out of office. This is not about Shannon. He’s collecting $140K of your tax money for hiding in the weeds and couldn’t make a decision if his life depended on it.
I just want some one that will earn his/her money and abide by his oath of office to the people. I know these cases are difficult to decide whether to bring criminal charges against a police officer. I’ve never said this wasn’t a difficult job and THERE IS NO ONE that hasn’t made mistakes. However lying about it to cover you mistakes is unacceptable.
I want a prosecutor that will ask the hard questions and not just roll over on these OIS/OID investigations. By improving the investigative product from a policy and procedure perspective it will help identify when mistakes are made regardless if they were criminal in nature or not.
I will go with a R and or D as justice should be color blind and
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
Shelala on December 02 at 11:15 a.m.
Shannon should bury her own hatchet, Ron. The mere fact she did not consider how her own issues could play into any legitimate recall effort, tells me that she either doesn’t think things through or is not truly committed to a recall seeking publicity instead. I can’t get on board with this, but will continue to seek the same accountability, transparency and justice. Everyone has their quirks, but her issues are more than playful quirks.
SpokyDaBear on December 02 at 11:19 a.m.
Tucker needs to go.
If he had done his job upholding the law instead of protecting his cop cronies, the Feds never would have had to intervene.
Must be nice earning over six figures while sitting on his ass all day long or playing golf.
Bye, Bye, Tucker!
ChiefsFan21 on December 02 at 11:38 a.m.
Thank you Sullivan.Tucker should be recalled and then prosecuted himself.He’s the epitamy of corruption in this city.
johnclarke on December 02 at 11:38 a.m.
zelda on December 02 at 10:39 a.m.
Hmm, well, shooting out the tires of your ex-husband’s car shows at certain um, er, lapse of judgement and anger control problem.
and super poor aim, assuming that she was aiming at the tires? I dunno, maybe she can tell us what her intent was. I mean, we’ve all done things we are not proud of - like aiming for a car and hitting a house. Ok, that is only kind of funny. Someone might have gotten hurt.
brian - thanks for the follow up. Serious pedophile scumbag that guy is…and a black eye for the SFD. I’m sorry, but his coworkers HAD TO KNOW he was doing this at the firehouse.
wdodd on December 02 at 11:38 a.m.
Next on the agenda should be recall Sheriff Ozzie-true colors are showing now when he made the comment that he was gooing to radicate racism. Not even jesus was successful in completing this task. Ozzie is placing himself above the pedastal of being GOD.
wdodd on December 02 at 11:39 a.m.
going to….sorry for typo
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 11:42 a.m.
Ethics in LE,
Hey didn’t you read Brian’s post up thread re the cases that Tucker did take? I wouldn’t go there:-)
As to the undisclosed source as I said in my declaration. If you read further I confirmed what the source had said directly and up front with a statement from City Councilman Bob Apple that heard this comment at this political rally:
… During the summer of 2011, I learned from an undisclosed source that during a campaign speech he gave at a political rally, County Prosecutor Steve Tucker said he would not prosecute police officers. Later during a conversation with Spokane City Councilmember Bob Apple, Apple said he was present at a labor rally a few years ago and heard Steve Tucker make such a statement to audience.
Upon further research I found this column by Spokesman-Review political reporter Jim Camden, “Incomplete ballots tell interesting story,” dated October 1, 2006:
This would correspond to the General Election of November 2006 when Steve Tucker was standing for election for his second term of office as County Prosecutor.
On November 30, 2011 Councilman Bob Apple provided me with this statement:
I certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of Washington that the foregoing is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 11:45 a.m.
OK here’s a bit of breaking news -
Shannon plans to file her recall charges at 2PM at the County Election Department, 1033 West Gardner Ave, This is on the street behind and to the north of the Courthouse/Jail.
Come and show your support for Shannon in having the cojones to do what is necessary.
The only way evil can prevail is if good people do nothing!
Dazzeetrader1980 on December 02 at 12:08 p.m.
Undoing an election is risky stuff. Surely, the people knew Tucker was lazy and didn’t prosecute..and yet he was re-elected. He didn’t hide anything.
If one person or 100 people do not like his work, wait till the next election and vote him out.
Not much I can see he’s done wrong. He’s within the law isn’t he? He might be a bum…like Verner , Gregoire or Obama…and the remedy isn’t to change an election. The usual and customary method is to vote him out …like with Verner, Gregoire had the good sense to quit…and Obama will be voted out.
Is this comething personal? What triggered this? and why now? Surely SUllivan has had years to do this…last term included. Run your own candidate if you don’t like Tucker. We have remedies. Mob speak is inappropriate in my opinion.
Why didn’t Sullivan try this with Verner when everyone knew she covered up. She hates men? There must be something that brought this to the forefront at this time…3 terms and no complaints? 12 years and nothing till now? Excuse me but this isn’t adding up…oh I forgot Sullivan was busy staying out of jail for her gunplay and then she took a run at Jim West. All this speaks to very erratic behavior….not courage…just instability.
richie on December 02 at 12:20 p.m.
Some people stand up for what is right, regardless of the consequences (maybe and including breaking the law). Shannon seems like this type of person. I wonder if Erin Brockovich has shot out a few tires? Regardless, this recall event has nothing to do with who knew what when they voted, innocence or guilt, or anything else that has been argued in MotherTuckers favor. I bet that the standards of recall will be met, and the signatures gathered. Then he can move on to his next job, CEO of PGandE. Thank you Shannon for having the balls to do this.
Scoutster on December 02 at 12:21 p.m.
Dazee, I am so glad to know you are fearlessly protecting our way of life!
Ms. Sullivan…do what you will and forget the nay-sayers who want to insult your integrity for reasons that have NOTHING to do with the recall. Sheesh. Who cares?! It’s not about her.
Any elected official is subject to the laws that keep him/her in office, Daisy.
I bet Tucker will be able to insult, intimidate and obfuscate on his own without calling the process itself into question.
But he probably will anyway.
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 12:21 p.m.
Dazzeetrader1980
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I don’t think we can financially as taxpayers afford three more years of Tucker’s inaction in office. His inaction is costing us major bucks. There is a ton of white collar crime going on in this town that is going ignored and unprosecuted by Tucker. We can’t expect the feds to flush the cesspool multiple times. We must clean our own crap before it reeks to the level that the feds have to come in. Verner was a start in the right direction.
And yes Tucker has committed serious violations in office re the statement of charges for the recall. These are not light weight things.
If it were less than a year remaining in his term I would agree wait until the next election, put up a qualified candidate and let the voters decide.
It is our right as citizens to initiate a recall if we believe he violated his oath of office. I could name many more instances beyond the four that were named in this statement.
SpokyDaBear on December 02 at 12:28 p.m.
Tucker is a ………er
Truthbtold on December 02 at 12:35 p.m.
OK. Enough is Enough…
First: I post with my real name and do not hide behind some alias so no one knows it is me. So if you want to attack me, please use your real name.
Second: I have NO problem with the “plea deal” NONE WHAT SO EVER, and if you bother to read the charges, the issue is that a JUDGE asked him to show up in court and he basically gave her the finger. It is his job do make an appearance when asked by a judge. At least according the RCW.
Third: If any of you would like to put yourselves and your past out there to take a stand against someone who “WE” as taxpayers employ and has made it possible for the few bad apples in the police/sheriffs department to be above the law, I welcome that. I would be HAPPY to hand it directly to you. And I do have a wonderful group of people that are helping me.
That being said, message the Recall of Steve Tucker face book page with your name and number, and I will pass it on to the fine individuals helping and you can carry on with the recall.
Oh, and I will not dig into your past or throw stones at you.
Bucky on December 02 at 12:47 p.m.
Boot him out
Shelala on December 02 at 12:57 p.m.
I am not saying a recall may not be in order, but I read the docs. I am not sure if this is well thought out, vetted and researched enough to have the desired outcome. It appears just to be just a bitch letter in legalize. I might be all wet, but I think I would have provided less opinion and more documented substance to back the allegations, but then again, I am all about the details. I spent two days researching flammability standards on the Christmas tree I just bought and I don’t sign on the dotted line until I am comfortable it merits my signature.Yes, I am one of “those” and no, I won’t be signing.
Secondly, it’s totally appropriate for people to blog using an alias. Not everyone is as comfortable with publicity as Shannon - that is the purpose of a blog.or an avatar or a handle. You asked for this, Shannon,don’t complain about the heat.
Thirdly, don’t presume that this particular recall effort is an all or nothing type deal. “Stepping up” comes in many different forms and many do not involve public grandstanding. Shannon doesn’t have to hand you anything to take your own stand.
Marie on December 02 at 1:06 p.m.
@Shannon,
As you learned from your Coulee City recall work, a recall has to be legally and factually sufficient before it goes to the voters. A judge makes those decisions. There is no law that required Steve Tucker to show up in court; if there was the judge would have found him in contempt of court. She may be upset but it’s not a legal violation.
Neither are the rest of the charges. Tucker has prosecuted public employees since 2006. When I looked at the KXLY website yesterday there wasn’t a court document that said that the reason the Ross federal suit was dismissed was because of something Tucker didn’t do. Is there one now? People file, and win, civil suits all the time without criminal charges being filed. Prosecutors have discretion whether or not to file charges so you can’t show a legal basis for the Zehm claim either. You have to say more than there was a cover up, and that he must have been aware of a cover up for the charges to be factually sufficient.
As for the 2003 incident, people can go look at the court file and make their own decisions about what happened.
Indie on December 02 at 1:08 p.m.
Thanks Shannon
valleyman on December 02 at 1:18 p.m.
So Ron & Shannon:
We’re going to recall Tucker over something he said at a campaign rally? We’re going to recall him because he chose not to show up in court, which he was not legally bound to do? You’re crossing onto pretty shaky ground now…
Politicians frequently will say whatever they want to give their electorate the red meat they seek to bolster turnout. Political speech is not grounds for a recall. His record of prosecutions would be, and I think you’ll see public employees and police officers have been prosecuted.
Shannon: People are not obliged to disclose their identities on here, and the fact they choose not to, does not cheapen their statements or arguments; so you can stop making that ascertain anytime now. Those who choose to post under a pseudonym do so for a reason, and I can assure you cowardice is not it. To claim otherwise is peeing into the wind…
ChefGus/ John Olsen on December 02 at 1:32 p.m.
Well…. in my view anyone who does not have at least a profile when we look at their screen name that gives a real name is a coward… if you have the courage of your convictions then use a real name. The review is a site that allows this malarkey …. but it is a “hood” ( a white hood) that men and women have hidden behind for years… no guts no glory…. Thanks Shannon again for your voice and thoughts…john ( you can find me in the phone book, or any weekday morning at House of Charity.)
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 1:37 p.m.
Marie,
Your points are well taken in the venue of a court of law. Please remember as to the ballot summary the courts only review the legal sufficiency of the statements. The court do not validate the truth of the charges. This is for the voters to decide if and when a recall election takes place. They are the ultimate trier of fact. The burden of proof is that which convinces a majority to recall the officer holder.
Yes a prosecutor clearly has discretion in what he chooses to file. However he is also a political office holder subject to the approval of the voters of his actions and discretion.
IMO Tucker’s non appearance before Judge Hayes was disrespectful to the court and to the judge. This is the same issue of respect that the SPD officers who saluted Ofc. Thompson failed to recognize.
valleyman on December 02 at 1:44 p.m.
@John: What a crass and hateful statement. The white hood eh? So I and others who don’t post with our real names are like the KKK? You, sir, are entitled to your belittling beliefs, but I will continue to call you out on them. I will not allow you to get away with cheapening my argument because I exercise my right to free speech by using a pseudonym to protect my identity out of a legitimate fear of reprisal.
Every performer, pamphleteer, singer, author, and blogger who has ever used a fake name is now likened to the KKK using your logic. Thanks for cheapening history.
valleyman on December 02 at 1:47 p.m.
@Ron: So the recall is a political weapon people like Sullivan and you get to use anytime your candidate doesn’t win office and you dislike how the winner conducts business? Recall ought to be reserved for criminal conduct or serious malfeasance in office, not for “holding someone accountable.” That’s what you get to do every four years…
brianrbreen on December 02 at 1:55 p.m.
@Ron_the_Cop
As far as “Ethics” is concerned, I don’t see a need to respond, “Ethics” has no clue and I will only quote from the RCW regarding the duties of a prosecutor. It would be kinda like being in a fencing match with someone without a foil. I will only offer this.
RCW 36.27.020
(13) Seek to reform and improve the administration of criminal justice and stimulate efforts to remedy inadequacies or injustice in substantive or procedural law.
As I have stated before, I like Steve Tucker as a person, not as a prosecutor, and there are young gung ho prosecutors in the office that would love to have change so they could kick arse. There have been a number of times when I have been in a position to sit down with a prosecutor and interview a lying witness, and the prosecutor put it right. There is one exception and that person should not be in that office, despite what “ultralitigator” might think I know exactly who he was talking about and why, and if it goes there I will. I kinda feel for Shannon Sullivan because she is going to take some heat, pretty much like me, even though I have always been the epitome of virtue and some people are trying to find a way to shut me up.
I’m used to people spoiling my plans and how I might approach things, but with respect to Don Brockett’s position and mine regarding Zehm take a look at this, and even though it’s all R’s now and I hate that. I think the best thing for everyone is to put all that aside including my girl friend Dazze.
RCW 43.10.090Criminal investigations — Supervision.
Upon the written request of the governor, the attorney general shall investigate violations of the criminal laws within this state.
If, after such investigation, the attorney general believes that the criminal laws are improperly enforced in any county, and that the prosecuting attorney of the county has failed or neglected to institute and prosecute violations of such criminal laws, either generally or with regard to a specific offense or class of offenses, the attorney general shall direct the prosecuting attorney to take such action in connection with any prosecution as the attorney general determines to be necessary and proper.
If any prosecuting attorney, after the receipt of such instructions from the attorney general, fails or neglects to comply therewith within a reasonable time, the attorney general may initiate and prosecute such criminal actions as he or she shall determine. In connection therewith, the attorney general shall have the same powers as would otherwise be vested in the prosecuting attorney.
From the time the attorney general has initiated or taken over a criminal prosecution, the prosecuting attorney shall not have power or authority to take any legal steps relating to such prosecution, except as authorized or directed by the attorney general.
[2009 c 549 § 5051; 1965 c 8 § 43.10.090. Prior: 1937 c 88 § 1; RRS § 112-1.]
brianrbreen on December 02 at 2:06 p.m.
@Marie
Don’t go there please.
ChefGus/ John Olsen on December 02 at 2:08 p.m.
Valley Man… you got it right.. and performers and singers that use Pseudonym’s generally have a real name and are able to be found in the phone book…. or find their history…. Racism and Otherism would not nearly exist if every person that wants to make an “otherism” statement were subject to scrutiny. Free Speech is attached to a person…and as far as i can see there is no “Person” attached to a damn thing you say…. get it?? john
valleyman on December 02 at 2:25 p.m.
@John: Alrighty then. Folks like you have a funny way of injecting racism and the specter of it into a conversation in a way to discredit those who disagree with you. Hate speech is not protected speech when it insights violence. I have never incited violence. I’m pretty sure some on your side have called for violence against Tucker, law enforcement, and those who disagree with them… Shame on you.
valleyman on December 02 at 2:28 p.m.
@Marie: It’s inconvenient to point out that civil suits succeed all the time where criminal charges fail. It’s why we have a much higher burden of proof criminally than we do civilly. It’s one thing to take a person’s money; it’s another to deprive them of life or liberty.
Sour grapes…
brianrbreen on December 02 at 2:32 p.m.
@John
Never mind, believe me it’s not worth it. But what I do love about this blog thing is that the more I understand it, and the more I realize how many people read this stuff including every one of the elected leaders, and their minions the more I realize the kind of trouble we are in.
valleyman on December 02 at 2:38 p.m.
@brian: Feel free to call me out directly. Your statement above would be like me saying “You seem to have no trouble taking pot-shots now that you’re retired and drawing your pension. What were you doing all those years you were witnessing corruption and the like when you were on the job?” Not fair right?
As far as I know, I still get to have a say even though I choose to be anonymous… Should the public demand whistleblowers lose their anonymity because we ‘have a right to know’?
I’ve disagreed with you before, and I’ll disagree with you again, but don’t play cheap with this… I’m an adult and so are you and we can agree to disagree without taking cheap shots…
Shelala on December 02 at 2:42 p.m.
@Ron
I re-read the petition thinking I missed something. It reads more like a commentary than a recall. Maybe you are too close to the issues to do it justice. I’ve been known to be wrong, but I have a hard time believing it will fly and stick even with public support. Maybe fresh eyes are in order. just a suggestion
.@John Who gives a rat’s a*** if they use their real name or not? Nobody’s up for a Nobel prize or gonna stop world hunger with their blog post (although you may be - one mouth at a time:)).
DocTom on December 02 at 3:06 p.m.
@Shannon Sullivan…please give me an address to send my contribution check to support your recall campaign. GOOD FOR YOU!!! and this action is long overdue. You have my complete moral and financial support.
EthicsinLE on December 02 at 3:23 p.m.
Ron, you have alleged that an “undisclosed” source said they heard Tucker make the comment he would never prosecute an officer. Yet, he has prosecuted several officers (Jay Olson, Brad Thoma, Mehring, Harvey, Pierson and many others). I can provide more names if you like. When I told you these names, you said “I wouldn’t go there:-)”. Well, I went there, now what? These officers were prosecuted by Tuckers office and most were found not guilty by a jury of citizens, not Tucker. If you or Sullivan want any credibility, name your alleged “undisclosed” source. Have them prepare a written, under penalty of perjury statement for us review. As to Mr. Apple, this allegation did not come from him directly, but what you said he said. Would Mr. Apple be willing to prepare a written, under penalty of perjury statement? As you know, third party hear say and what you were told from “undisclosed” sources are not admissible in court and don’t hold much credibility. This sounds more like a little group of you and a few other bitter people trying desperately to get certain people out of office. I have no problem with recalls and removing certain people from office, but do it with honesty and facts. If you honestly expect any of us to believe Tucker made the statement, in a public setting, that he would never prosecute officers, you’re an idiot.
I’ve read the recall allegations by Sullivan and there is nothing there. It is obvious you and Sullivan are working together on this and your personal agenda. Tucker has very difficult decisions to make, and he has. You, or others, may not agree, but he has to base those decisions on the law and what he can prove in court, not emotion, bias, political affiliation, media pressure, etc.. I am disappointed, a former officer should know this. Just curious, who do you or Ms. Sullivan suggest replace him?
SpokyDaBear on December 02 at 3:28 p.m.
Go Get ‘Em Sullivan!
You can do it!
By the way, in this day and age of internet access, where out of the country did Tucker run to that he can’t give a comment?
Let me guess. It is must that same hole he hides his head in whenever a cop kills a janitor?
Thanks for costing us so much taxpayer’s money Tucker. How many homeless could have been housed and fed, instead of you doing nothing and making us pay for the janitor killing cop to defend himself?
Time for Tucker to go bye, bye..
Diana on December 02 at 3:44 p.m.
If you read with comprehension, you know Gus didn’t make a hateful or racist statement. He was calling out those who do while hiding behind screen names. I can think of three right off the bat who frequent these pages.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 3:59 p.m.
@Valleyman
Lets do this, you know who I am, and I know who you are, so if you want to battle out experience bring it on. Express your opinion but how about being honest and anyone that was on the job when I was would have told you that rotten Breen isn’t afraid to stand up. I could go through a whole bunch of BS I had to go through just standing up and in a lot of cases for the troops.
I was the first cop on the SPD to refuse to give a statement to the City Attorney’s Office in a case because of the conflict and because I happened to have sought training before that in Garrity, others had no clue. Even though I was threatened with being fired and the Guild refused to support me. I won of course before it even got to the next shift. and the department had to reevaluate their position.
I fought the battle all the way through my career and only gained respect for my lack of not wanting to lay back and collect my money and pension. It started during EXPO 74 which is a long story, but here, I’ll give you this link below as an example. It started well before this when the Chief told me to see if they had the right guy. They didn’t, and I said so, I had to put up with the BS from the Detectives that were convinced they did. The nice thing is the sister of the wrong guy gives me a hug every once in a while. Even before the Coe case I had to step up and try and right things at my own expense. As a Detective I was sent in to try and clean up messes others made far beyond my rank and I did. I could go into each and every one but I won’t. I refused IA cases where it was obvious to me the administration was trying to find a way to fire a guy. I even have a memo directing me to carry out an investigation because of my job description that I refused to do because I knew what they wanted. I won of course. I went into a meeting with Rocco who was going to try and sue a sole source vendor for fraud and stuck my neck out for some other cops because they did a stupid thing, and took the heat. I could go on and on but I was never CS about standing up for what was right even at my own expense. So when it comes to CS don’t even try and suggest its me. take a good look in the mirror and any time you want to publicly compare careers let me know.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19850524&id=tvIzAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Fu8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3192,5274796
zelda on December 02 at 4:30 p.m.
@EthicsinLE — Providing a purposely weak, tepid or lackluster prosecution is tantamount to no prosecution. Tucker has done the bare minimum to get by. It’s a combination of laziness, incompetence and willful disregard for the law.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 5:08 p.m.
@Ethics
Just kinda curious, how well do you know the cases you mentioned?
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 5:18 p.m.
@Ethics
For the record the first I heard of Tucker’s statement was from an undisclosed source. I later though did confirm this with Mr. Apple. See this email from him I took the quote from [email addressed redacted:
I also confirmed this quote with him by phone. I would have done a sworn dec from him but I wanted to include the piece from Camden that confirmed the time and location of this meeting. Mr. Apple could only recall that this was few years ago when Tucker was standing for re election. I sure Mr. Apple would be happy to confirm this statement to any who would ask him.
@Brian,
Trust me when I say that both former Sheriff Bamonte and me have an extensive paper trial with AG’s McKenna’s Office and the Governor’s Office on the very mechanism you suggested including several variations of these sections. They did not respond to us.
selkirk on December 02 at 5:26 p.m.
Where did Steve Tucker come from?
And more importantly, why did he leave and come to SpoCompton?
The_Seer on December 02 at 5:44 p.m.
I’ve played golf several times over the last few decades with Steve Tucker. Each time I was a single joining a group he was paired with. I doubt he remembers any of these encounters.
My father, while teaching me the game of golf, often stated one could gain an accurate measure of a person’s character while playing a single round of golf with them. Dad said to focus on the golfer’s adherence to the ethos of self-regulation golf imposes. That golf is, in its purest form, truth.
Play the ball where it lies.
Understand you are keeping the score of your fellow golfer, as she is yours, to assure mutual accountability.
You call fellow players for rule infractions and willingly expect their reciprocation.
Within the bounds of nature, all is understood in this game.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 5:48 p.m.
@Ethics
The only reason I ask is because if I remember correctly the Olsen defense relied on an erased 911 tape and the testimony of a 911 dispatch supervisor the defense found who said things favorable to the defense position that, would have been refuted in rebuttal by the actual individual on the other end of the line, but Steinmetz decided not to call the witness in rebuttal for some reason. If I recall Steinmetz said the witness wasn’t called because the witness was ill and it would be hard to get him to Spokane. But when the media contacted the witness he called BS on that. I also seem to recall the defense had some expert that said Olsen did no wrong among other things, and although that expert was on the witness list for a long time the prosecution never bothered to counter with their own. Help me out here, is my memory correct or am I just imagining things.
My memory is starting to come back on the other cases you mentioned, a little, but maybe you remember more than I do so help us all out.
LMK_61 on December 02 at 5:50 p.m.
Go Shannon….I fully believe you are the right person for the filing and the pursuit of appropriate justice for us tax paying people.
1) How come it is that Karl Thompson still gets to keep his pension?
2) Why is Steve Tuckers office not explaining which “sand trap” he has his head stuck in?? Especially when we are still paying him $140k a year??
Remember always those that truly know you are behind you 100%.
Always,
L
brianrbreen on December 02 at 5:50 p.m.
@Ron_the_Cop
I know, but you and Tony aren’t me, and you don’t have the dirt I have! :)
generallyspeaking on December 02 at 5:59 p.m.
Brian Breen and Ron the Cop…..Legends in their own minds!! And look out everyone Shannon is getting upset that people are talking about her criminal act….better duck and cover!!!
The_Seer on December 02 at 6:02 p.m.
LMK: Why be upset with Tucker’s 140 G’s? The Superintendent of District 81 hauls in about a quarter million a year in salary and bennies with a cased closed rate under 70%.
Can we recall her?
brianrbreen on December 02 at 6:03 p.m.
@Justme09
Let me help you with that one it should be “Legends in their own little perverted minds!!”
generallyspeaking on December 02 at 6:06 p.m.
@Brian…glad you agree…because your reputation is not what you say it is….
generallyspeaking on December 02 at 6:07 p.m.
And REALLY you and Ron the “cop” really need to get a life….Oh wait a minute….your life is posting on the internet all day long….how sad.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 6:10 p.m.
@Justme09
I know. but at least it keeps me from being intimidated by the FBI.
SpokyDaBear on December 02 at 6:11 p.m.
Bye bye Tucker!
brianrbreen on December 02 at 6:11 p.m.
@Justme09
You are right, not with people like you!
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 6:18 p.m.
Brian,
Ok perhaps you’ll write AG McKenna and Gov Gregoire and have a go at it. We even tried the Organized Crime Co route to require the AG/Gov to appoint a special prosecutor to no avail. I guess this Co was killed in the last round or two of budget cuts because no one was using it. Go figure:-)
And yes you’re correct the dispatch tape was missing. In my research on the Creach case the dispatch call center know has a ditigal recorder that does all radio/dispatch/tel calls. Kind of hard to lose that now if someone preserves it as should be SOP for OIS et al incidents. How this disappeared is very interesting to me.
Yes they put on the dispatcher who took the 911 call and testified from memory. However the folks that Pete ran into their house to call 911 were available for rebuttal by the prosecution but weren’t called. One of those football errors on third down or something more serious? Was this case thrown because of low balling and or letting jurors sit that should have been excused?
BTW I have another case where Steinmetz was involved and was sanctioned by the court for prosecutor misconduct in a murder case and may have been involved in other hanky panky in this trial that I can’t discuss here right now.
Ron_the_Cop on December 02 at 6:21 p.m.
Hey Justy where are you when we need you to entertain Justme? Is this one in the same as Grandma again?
brianrbreen on December 02 at 6:26 p.m.
@Ron_the_Cop
Justme09, is someone different. But the speed is the same.
mmtraynor on December 02 at 6:37 p.m.
Way to go Shannon. Too bad there are not more people living here in Spokane like you. Maybe it would be a better place to live and raise our children.
Who gives a rats about something that happened back in 2003. Since then, you have proved yourself over, and over, again that you are an asset to Spokane. Thank you Shannon.
LMK_61 on December 02 at 6:44 p.m.
Go Shannon Go!!!!
You know I am behind you 100% and I need to find out where I can sign to get your appropriate justice done!
who says that brianrbreen “has never done anything wrong in their lives”… pleeeze give me a break….wake up dude.
I don’t care too much about % rates…I have been robbed at home 2 times in a month and they don’t have enough people to come and investigate so…put some of that heavy paid money back into the community before some of us decide to defend ourselves as we were taught in the military.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 6:49 p.m.
@LMK_61
“who says that brianrbreen “has never done anything wrong in their lives”… pleeeze give me a break….wake up dude.”
Dude, that went over my head but I’m thinking maybe my post went over yours.
zelda on December 02 at 6:50 p.m.
Well, OK, then @The_Seer. Did Steve Tucker cheat at golf or didn’t he?
My dad taught me the same lesson about golf. I remember him pointing out to me the telling scene from “Goldfinger” when James Bond caught Goldfinger cheating at golf and that pretty much took the measure of the man.
I should point out, however, that my dad cheated at pool.
As a rule, I don’t take any life lessons from sports. Golf might be a good way to differentiate regular guys from international arch fiends, but not so good for sizing up prosecutors.
misjustice on December 02 at 6:53 p.m.
@ Ron, nope, unless she is smart enough to create a second identity; Justme09 and JustGrammaAgain are not the same poster. And even if she were that smart, the syntax and other telling uses of language are different; and I truly doubt that she could pull that one off.
I’ve been here, reading all the posts. Not sure what to contribute.
Mayor West was unfairly targeted and baited by the SR which gave Sullivan her “in”. After watching the Frontline expose I was very uncomfortable with what was done to Mayor West; and more than a little sad. Too bad that he couldn’t live his authentic life.
Even though the SR tried, as I recall, the FBI never found that he contacted underaged young men using his city computer…no kiddie porn either…
I believe that the SR owners had a vested interest in taking West down; by any means necessary. He was gonna end the RPS garbage and the Cowles could not let that happen.
He was a good mayor and who knows where this city would be now if Steve Smith, the SR, and Sullivan would not have worked to take him down?
Although I believe that No-Charge Tucker has been a slacker and a no show I’m not sure that a recall will accomplish what it is that citizens desire from the Prosecuting Attorney’s Office.
*sigh*
And as to Sullivan’s record, I always have admired ex-florists that discharge firearms! She must have known that starting this recall against Tucker, Tucker, rhymes with _ _ _ _ _ _ would bring up her past “record” but she did it any who how…
ChefGus/ John Olsen on December 02 at 6:54 p.m.
Hey.. Officer Breen ?? So do you really know with certainty who “Valley Man” is>>?? just post his real name here… … just do it please… if you know then we all would like to know… enough of this hiding under the ‘hoods’ get those folks “out” and we will all be better off…. ??WHY the Spokesman web site does not have the same “parameters” for posting here.,.. as they do for the letters to the Editor I cannot fathom…. ( i’m not a deep thinker… but six feet right??) best and thanks for your advocacy and “voice”….. we WILL do some good for this poor sad community of other that has been abused.. bless you…j/gus ( oh you can come down any morning during the week to for an “object lesson” :))
brianrbreen on December 02 at 6:58 p.m.
@misjustice
I think Justme09 is mad at me for a statement I made to you along time back. What do you think Justme09 how about some public information officer? Who are you? :)
misjustice on December 02 at 7:01 p.m.
Awww, Chef, with all due respect please give it a rest. Stating Valleyman’s “real” name on these threads would be an invasion of privacy.
I post under an avatar name, you “know” who I am because we have exchanged a few e-mails…but if you posted my “real” name here I’d flag your post because I have the right to remain, forever, as Misjustice…
Just like Valleyman has the right to remain Valleyman…I may disagree with him a lot, and I suspect that he is the Sheriff…Lol… but even if I found out his real name I wouldn’t post it here.
I know many other contributors to these threads and have always kept their real name to myself.
misjustice on December 02 at 7:06 p.m.
@ Brian, Justme09 flagged your post on the IAs list (on the Thompson thread) and got it pulled?
brianrbreen on December 02 at 7:07 p.m.
@John
Yes, but I promised I won’t do that with anyone. Please don’t worry about it. Heck, look at the abuse me and others have to take. Just keep doing your good work and be confident that using your own name shows integrity. Then chalk it up to the same thing you would with three week old oysters from Louisiana.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 7:09 p.m.
@misjustice
I know but the message was delivered.
brianrbreen on December 02 at 7:12 p.m.
@misjustice
As trivial as I am some folks have some concern I might have some juice…of course I really don’t. :)
misjustice on December 02 at 7:24 p.m.
@ Brian: I dunno, I’ve read some “juicy” stuff about ya! And I can imagine the rest…
; )
brianrbreen on December 02 at 7:30 p.m.
There is nothing there …honest! :)
Shadedmuse on December 02 at 7:30 p.m.
Didnt tucker plea bargin Yates, from the death penalty?
Also if Spokane voters did not want tucker in office then why didnt they vote him out of office, they have had three chances to do so, Spokane voters keep re-electing tucker and I predict Spokane voters will stand behind tucker because he is a republican and if tucker was a ham sandwich spokane voters would still vote for him as long as he has an R after his name.
I for one didnt vote for tucker because of the R I voted for Give em Hell Mallone, I met frank at are Democratic Meetings.
D Statler on December 02 at 7:51 p.m.
friends of the tucker recall @ facebook.com
Thanks again Shannon, I look forward to meeting you someday. Your strength and conviction is admirable. It appears that prosecutorial misconduct happens alot more than I realized.
DickAdams on December 02 at 8:13 p.m.
seer ick, I promised to show that Ron Wells had nothing to do with the Carnegie Library and stated on 11/30, I `d offer some proof 12/1 and I did, and once more you were a no show. What gives? I`ve been looking to see if you have made any comments today and you only showed up a couple hours ago. No comment on my 12/1 post? To the posters, I apologize for this off topic post.
Jethro_toll on December 02 at 8:23 p.m.
Valleyman cant be unmasked otherwise he would have to turn in his spatula at McDonalds.
Shelala on December 02 at 8:32 p.m.
I gotta agree with misjustice. I had mixed feelings about West. In hindsight, I think there was a lot of misinformation slung about mixed with some truths. Ultimately it was just sad. I can’t wrap my head around people who willing to get on board with Sullivan’s bandwagon by overlooking a past conviction involving a firearm in a poorly handled personal dispute.Kinda like Willie Nelson leading the charge for tougher marijuana possession laws. I like his music, but its not a good fit.
LMK_61 on December 02 at 8:38 p.m.
To Brianrbreen…..
Ms. Sullivan. I think it is very important for you to understand that Dazzee and me belong to a very select group of individuals who throughout our lives have never made a mistake. Therefore it is almost impossible for us to forgive and forget.
obviously you musta forgot what you posted….this did not go over my head…I read it completely and you brainfarted and forgot what you said.
L
brianrbreen on December 02 at 8:45 p.m.
@LMK_61
I think most would have picked up that I was being factious. I did make a mistake once back in 1968 but that’s the only one I have ever made. Unless there was some brainfarts somewhere along the line and I don’t remember any other ones I might have made. :)
valleyman on December 02 at 10:08 p.m.
@brian: with respect, you don’t have a clue who I am…
@john: may your lack of knowing who I am continue to gnaw at you daily…
@misjustice: strange to find myself saying this, but thank you, and I mean that.
@jethro: are you one of my customers?
brianrbreen on December 02 at 10:57 p.m.
@valleyman: with respect, whatever you say….for all I know you are some guy from the Silver Valley instead of the Spokane Valley who likes Rhode Island Reds.
Jethro_toll on December 02 at 11:02 p.m.
…”likes Rhode Island Reds…” is that with or without the duct tape?
Slightlyworried on December 02 at 11:31 p.m.
If Valleyman is a bartender or golf pro, he knows Tucker very well. If Valleyman works at the courthouse, he’s never seen Tucker in his life.
valleyman on December 03 at 8:26 a.m.
I do like RIRs… They have superior eggs :)
brianrbreen on December 03 at 8:41 a.m.
I try and stay away from eggs, but I do like them. :)
The_Seer on December 03 at 9:16 a.m.
dickedadams: You might wanna take only half that tab of Halcion from now on.
Just sayin!
pjc on December 03 at 10:12 a.m.
chef gus wrote:…in my view anyone who does not have at least a profile when we look at their screen name that gives a real name is a coward..
Thank goodness you are not in charge of the S-R website.
generallyspeaking on December 03 at 6:10 p.m.
@Brianbreen….If you want to sound intelligent….or even half way intelligent….you might want to learn how to spell factitious…..or at least learn how to use spell check!!
brianrbreen on December 04 at 6:41 a.m.
@Justme09
I know I’m terrible, I can’t find a spell check on this thing, where is it?
I notice the spelling in all of your stuff is always perfect. Good on you.
misjustice on December 04 at 8:52 a.m.
@ Brian, you have to upload a spell check tool onto your tool bar! Then after composing a post you just click on the spell check icon and it will check your post, underlining or highlighting any errors.
Only download a spell check program from a source that you trust as some can be infected with malware and viruses…
*sigh*
If you don’t want to do that, you can keep two windows open and have one open to an on-line dictionary; you can check words you are unsure of and then go back to the open window that you are posting on. More cumbersome than spell check but it also works.
Note: spell check won’t help with identifying correct usage of there, their, and they’re…you need grammar check for that!
Lol!
brianrbreen on December 04 at 9:35 a.m.
@misjustice
Let me ask you this. Do you think my obvious inability to adequately deal with issues of spilling and grammaer represents one of my many character flaws? I do! I’m more then (or is that than) willing to overlook you’ers. If you will please try and overlook mine. :)
I must admit I’m encouraged by the fact that “Justme09” has such an interest in the things I post, and takes the time to make the necessary corrections. It tells me that perhaps someone is listening (reading) out there. As I’ve told you before, I find it amazing that a nobody like me garners such attention from a small yet vocal minority in law enforcement circles.
I apologize, but work with me on will you, at this late stage in my life it’s hard to overcome this terrible flaw I have.
brianrbreen on December 04 at 9:53 a.m.
@misjustice
I also find my self inadvertently leaving out words. That should read: “work with me on this, will you”
misjustice on December 04 at 10:05 a.m.
Awww, Brian, I love ya just the way you are! But “than” I have my own character floss!
; )
generallyspeaking on December 04 at 5:01 p.m.
@Brian…Sorry to bust your over inflated ego….but the only ties I have to law enforcement is a traffic ticket I once received….I breeze through here occasionally to see what conspiracy theories you nuts come up with….The only thing I see is that you apparently have some ax to grind with the PD you claim to have worked for…..time to get on with your life and move on dude….your time with them is OVER….I am sure no one there remembers your your insignificant career…..let it GO…..
brianrbreen on December 04 at 5:24 p.m.
@Justme09
Sure enough dude!
generallyspeaking on December 04 at 6:07 p.m.
Wow…no spelling errors or missed words this time…..very impressive….dude..and your last post wasn’t long winded and full of hot air…..slow learner, but you’re learning….see an old dog CAN learn new tricks….
brianrbreen on December 04 at 6:12 p.m.
Cool….
brianrbreen on December 04 at 7:12 p.m.
@Justme09
At first…… I thought it was just me…but then I remembered ….that you don’t like that “bafoon” Tom Clouse either….I just keep my fingers crossed that no one gets physical with me….. like the female officer did after the salute hearing with him….I’m just an old dog….and darn frail.
Justme09 on November 15 at 5:14 p.m.
As if Clouse is a believable reporter…I would not trust ANYTHING this clown says…..Spokesman should be ashamed to employ this bafoon…..Oh what am I saying…It’s the rag tag Spokesman Review….
generallyspeaking on December 05 at 5:37 a.m.
@Brian…at least we agree on one thing….You and Tom Clouse are in the same category…..You REALLY have TOO much time on your hands….Your life is spent on the computer….What a lonely existence you lead…..apparently the only one that will miss you when you exit this world….is your internet carrier….Now time to move on….you really are a bore….
brianrbreen on December 05 at 6:04 a.m.
@justme09
Well….for being such a bore….Me and my buddy Clouse….have provided you with…some REALLY fun things to do….haven’t we…. I’ve got a few more thingies to do then I’ll move on…..I know that’s kinda sucky for you.
misjustice on December 05 at 6:23 a.m.
@ Brian, I think you have a stalker…or at least someone with a crush on you…that follows you around, from thread to thread, I’d be careful if I were you; can never tell what someone like that will do!
; )
brianrbreen on December 05 at 6:28 a.m.
@misjustice
Not to worry…..any problems I’ll just call the cops, and keep my fingers crossed that I don’t get one of the 50 or so that are really, really POd at me right now.
kennyhuston on December 05 at 9:55 a.m.
@ Brian - you make me LMFAO!!!!!!
brianrbreen on December 05 at 12:35 p.m.
@kennyhuston
Once we get this squared away I’ll save my money…. then I’ll Moezy in and we will have a beer…. as long as I can count on Glenna not spoiling my A-hole image, and we will all take cabs from there.
I have to admit….this driving….30 MPH….all over town….is sucky.
It would be nice to get “the mouse” there, that’s his neighborhood. Then maybe at some point we will get back to neighborhood policing.
BTW: This kinda PO’d me and most would have forgotten about it, but some how I just have this rotten thing about cops abusing ME and YOU or for that matter taking advantage of everything they have.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/sep/30/deputy-pleads-guilty-to-fraud/
@Justme09
Beyond the broken foot, and the surgery scheduled after the holidays, I’m doing fine. So the best thing is to realize that you ain’t going to win or even be able to send an email that said you did.
generallyspeaking on December 05 at 2:45 p.m.
@Brian…I have no idea what you are rambling about…your foot and surgery? Nor have I ever said anything about sending you an email….Perhaps you have me confused with someone else….you constantly show you are not capable of paying attention to detail….such as spelling, grammer, and who stated what….in various blogs, that confirms my thoughts on what kind of detective you must have been…if you really were one…Someone who shows they can’t pay attention to detail, could not have been an effective detective….and further confirms that anything you say…can’t be believed because who knows how accurate your facts are……
misjustice on December 05 at 3:54 p.m.
It’s “grammar”, Justme, not grammer…just a lil’ attention to detail thingy!
; )
brianrbreen on December 05 at 4:10 p.m.
@Justme09
Good point, I’ll give it up soon… my ability to pay attention to detail is really bad… I admit that… So maybe you can help me out with detail.
So far what I have is that Patrick D. Bunch divorced Colleen Bunch during the time he was suffering the trauma at the Liberty Lake boat ramp. She,(according to the records I’ve seen) was a city cop PFC, and she ended up marrying some guy named John P Gatley who according to public records is an SPD Cop, a PIO, as well as a Guild Vice President. Now that’s all public record and if you want to flag this one have at it. Me.. just the way I am was kinda thinking perhaps it was the same cop that was with Thompson at each and every hearing he had, and the trial. So…. I get this info that the female officer that got a little physical with Clouse was named Bunch. Now me, I ain’t that bright but I’m thinking gosh I wonder if the female cop that got physical with Clouse might be the same one that could be married to this Gately guy. So even though I’m kinda old and just a dumb guy who has never been able to pay attention to detail…. I reach out to some snitches and find out there is a possibility that the Mayor and Chief sent a letter of apology to the brass at the SR regarding the physical contact and other things. Then being the dumb guy I am I’m thinking this Gately guy that was by Thompson’s side all the time must have either taken one heck of a lot of vacation or was allowed to be off on Guild time, at my expense. So I start thinking should I or shouldn’t I …well thanks for helping me out. Before you made the decision for me, some how I ended up with copies of some of the stuff in my PDR request. It will be interesting to see how they compare.
As far as the assigned vehicles, and the riders that I paid for to go to Yakima. I’ll see how the surgery goes.
Just so you know, I was never very “effective” always Defective Breen.
Good Luck hope it all works out.
I’m sure there be a lot of people will be thanking you for feeding me again.
brianrbreen on December 05 at 4:30 p.m.
@misjustice
Okay…Okay… I got it…It’s “thingy” instead of “thingie”.
misjustice on December 05 at 5:00 p.m.
Watch it, Brian, or someone will think you actually DO pay attention to details! And that could ruin your reputation!
; )
Your 4:10 post is very interesting…
brianrbreen on December 05 at 5:06 p.m.
@misjustice
It’s a long story kid, kinda like buying weight, you suck them in and then do your own deal.
generallyspeaking on December 05 at 5:24 p.m.
WHAT are you rambling about again Brian??? WHAT does a Patrick Bunch, being married to a Colleen Bunch, who is now married to a John Gately….and whatever else you went on a boring rant about have to do with anything??? I have NO idea what you think you are proving…..other then you have WAY too much time on your hands and OBVIOUSLY are obsessed with the SPD?…IF you ever really did work for SPD that was at least two decades ago…..You have no idea about police work in the 21st Century…just a senile old man…..
misjustice on December 05 at 6:02 p.m.
@ Brian, he just can’t stay away; I’m tellin’ ya, he’s got a thingy for ya!
; )
So, Bri, have you been able to tell, from your copies of “stuff”, if Mrs. and Mr. both were in Yakima? Or just the Mr.???? Maybe it was just legit vacation time? Or maybe not?
liveinfearoftheSPD on December 05 at 10:44 p.m.
Vacation to Yakima? A fun time must of been had by all. I can’t wait to take my long awaited vacation to Yakima, I hear it is the place to go these days.
Brian, I enjoy and appreciate your input very much. You and a handful of others appear to have a handle on what is happening in Spokane. Too bad Spokane LE can’t do the same. Even if the grammar and spelling is off at times, the point is well made and understood by most. Sorry about your stalker, there should be laws against that sort of thing. (-;