December 23, 2011 in News, City

Thompson attorneys allege misconduct

By The Spokesman-Review
 
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Defense attorneys for convicted Spokane Police Officer Karl F. Thompson Jr. filed a motion today claiming everything from judicial error to juror misconduct in their attempt to persuade a federal judge to grant a new trial stemming from the fatal 2006 confrontation with Otto Zehm.

The first allegation is one that has been presented twice – and twice rejected by U.S. District Court Judge Fred Van Sickle – that the government did not present sufficient evidence to show Thompson acted willfully, or with a bad or evil purpose, to deprive Zehm of his Constitutional right to be free of unreasonable force.

“Second, evidence was admitted over objection at trial that unfairly tainted the proceedings,” defense attorney Carl Oreskovich wrote.

A jury in Yakima convicted Thompson Nov. 2 of using excessive force and lying to cover up his actions during the March 18, 2006, confrontation in which Thompson struck the 36-year-old mentally ill Zehm with a baton multiple times and shocked him with a Taser in a Spokane convenience store. Several other officers arrived, hogtied Zehm, kept him on his stomach and placed a non-rebreather mask on his face. He stopped breathing and died two days later.

Van Sickle’s decision to allow testimony from a Zip Trip employee who often saw Zehm purchasing Pepsi products, evidence of Zehm’s paycheck from the crime scene, and Zehm’s comment that all he wanted was a Snickers “allowed the prosecution to make constant reference to Mr. Zehm’s innocence,” Oreskovich wrote.

He also attacked the jury, saying comments attributed to jury forewoman Diane Riely shows that the jury “considered inappropriate extraneous information in making its determination as to Karl Thompson’s guilt,” Oreskovich wrote. “The jury’s misconduct severely undermined the trial process and deprived Karl Thompson of his right to a fair trial.”

Oreskovich also criticized the jury instructions. Telling the jury that Zehm had a right to defend himself “was inappropriate and improperly focused the jury’s attention on Mr. Zehm’s actions and state of mind as opposed to what was perceived by Karl Thompson,” he wrote.

Finally, the defense attorney – who has billed more than $354,000 for his firm as of Oct. 31 – claimed that federal prosecutors engaged in “misconduct throughout the course of the trial. In its opening statement, the government made inappropriate references to Mr. Zehms’ innocence.

“Furthermore, the government blatantly misrepresented the facts during the trial and closing arguments through the mischaracterization of evidence, including evidence regarding Zehm’s innocence.”

93 comments on this story so far. Add yours!
  • oneanddone on December 23 at 2:12 p.m.

    Losers cry, “deal again…”

  • herewegoagain on December 23 at 2:23 p.m.

    Thompson was found guilty as charged, get over it.

  • DocTom on December 23 at 2:39 p.m.

    “Finally, the defense attorney – who has billed more than $354,000 for his firm as of Oct. 31 – ”

    The age-old statement of ” Adding Insult to Injury”… There should be a cap on these fees by the City and needless to say, an extensive audit. However, we all know that neither of these actions will be addressed, nor undertaken.

  • wcougars on December 23 at 2:48 p.m.

    They got everything they asked for at trial and the jury still saw the truth. Lawyer O just wants to make a half million off of the tax payers. Goodbye Carl, I am sure there was many good things you did as a cop but you blew this and cost a human being his life. Cool it for a few years. I am sure they will still give you retirement.

  • TheTraveller on December 23 at 2:50 p.m.

    If I understand correctly, this was the criminal trial of an individual, not a civil suit against the city. I am wondering why Mr. Thompson was not given a Public Defender if he could not afford representation of his choice. That’s what the rest of us get…..

  • richardcrash on December 23 at 2:50 p.m.

    Oreskovich should be tried for fraud! What a Joke! He gives attorney’s a bad name! I bet he has a new bill for the city.

  • richardcrash on December 23 at 2:56 p.m.

    DocTom, The Traveller
    I agree with you 100%

  • mrd on December 23 at 3:04 p.m.

    What a waste of money. Guilty as charged. Even those of us not on the jury could see that. Time to move on…………..

  • zelda on December 23 at 3:07 p.m.

    Sounds like Oreskovich has got himself a job for life. For all intents and purposes, he’s on the city payroll till the cows come home.

  • Shelala on December 23 at 3:50 p.m.

    @Traveller
    This is the “Hail Mary” of KT’s legal defense.No one should be surprised. KT’s legal bills for his criminal defense are/have been paid by taxpayers because he claimed and it was accepted he was indigent and unable to pay his own legal fees. He transferred his assets including his expansive Idaho home to his wife. He then divorced her to appear financially indigent, despite the fact he still resides in his home with his former wife and maintains his former lifestyle. He continued to collect his pay and benefits as a police officer until recently, at which point he was allowed to resign and the city cashed him out awarding him back pay, remaining sick leave, annual leave and the like.. A defense fund established by his fellow officers supposedly to offset his legal expenses was established at a local credit union early on.. I have no idea how much has been collected, where it went or other information about this fund because no accounting has been available, despite requests for disclosure. It had been stated that the fund was required to pay for expert witnesses, but these costs are usually included the amounts paid by taxpayers for the defense of an indigent client. I have no explanation. The taxpayers are not done paying either. The final financial toll of this incident has yet to be calculated, but KT was obviously afforded the best defense money can buy. It appears that justice comes with a price tag for the public.taxpayer. There is an argument to be made that an “ordinary” citizen charged with a federal criminal crime would not have the legal resources available to them at no cost as KT continues to benefit from. It would be interesting to compare these costs with the costs incurred by any other offender prosecuted by the federal government. We all know the likely answer. The outrage the citizen’s feel for this entire fiasco, I have been told, is trying to be addressed by the mayor elect’s transition team, but then again, the public isn’t privvy to these discussions either as Condon (who ran on a platform of transparency) has requested discussions be confidential and not be made public for the “comfort: of those movers and shakers who are on this transition team. Not a good answer? Don’t worry, you just have to pay for it.all

  • Shelala on December 23 at 3:54 p.m.

    BTW, expenses are paid from different sources. Federal funds, city funds, insurance, etc, but they are all ultimately taxpayer funds, just different banks.

  • misjustice on December 23 at 4:43 p.m.

    And if we question the actions of the SPD, the Guild, KT or CO, we are basically accused of being crooks that hate cops; the ones that get the bill for all of the lies and coverups and misdeeds just need to shut the hell up and fork over the damn money. Savvy?

  • Slightlyworried on December 23 at 5:09 p.m.

    Headline, Spokesman Review, December 23, 2012:

    “Thompson attorneys allege misconduct for 22nd time”

  • dataxman on December 23 at 5:11 p.m.

    Shotgun approach?

  • lewis8457 on December 23 at 5:23 p.m.

    hang Thompson and his attorney case closed.

  • Shadedmuse on December 23 at 5:45 p.m.

    Karl thompson is not guilty. free karl thompson the man is a Hero.

  • Slightlyworried on December 23 at 5:52 p.m.

    Why do I think Shadedmuse is a member of the Thompson defense team and that we are paying for them to sit around and troll the SR?

  • Shelala on December 23 at 5:59 p.m.

    Shadedmuse claims to hate the SR and all Spokane media (among other things), but he has posted 737 times.He has “issues”.

  • Davida on December 23 at 6:10 p.m.

    Misjustice posts On January 8th:

    Quote: “”spokanada on January 08 at 2:37 p.m.

    YES it is a huge deal. It is his job to protect the citizens of Spokane County. Just because he is off the clock doesn’t mean he can drink and drive. We teach our kids to look up to police officers. Jones is a disgrace and should be fired from the force.”“

    First: spokanada should go back to Canada. They NEVER have a good thing to say about Spokane or any of the citizens that live here. Therefore I don’t know why they stay around.
    Second: Pat O’Leary is another that NEVER has anything good to say about anyone.

    Third: I’d like to see any of you that are complaining about the officers to get out there, be a target each & every night/day with the kooks with guns, drunks, interfere with domestic violence cases, murders, kids hit by drunk drivers, etc, etc, etc. You can’t pay me enough to put my life on the line every time I walk out of the house or just be sitting having coffee before going to work & get gunned down. There are nuts out there that like to run down anything an officer does.

    Fourth: Officers are just like anyone else. He was arrested (Nope he didn’t get an officer to drive him home & let this go.), his reputation is being slammed & he just probably will lose his job (which most people wouldn’t have to contend with). He will have his day in court & unless me or you are on his jury, our opinions really don’t matter on how he should be punished.

    @Misjustice one minute you love the police and say they couldn’t pay you enough to do their job. You say “there are NUTS out there who want to run down anything an officer does. And unless people are on the jury their opinions don’t really matter….hmmm not quite sure after all of your posts now about hating the cops and all the hate and disdain you have for them if you really know what you feel at all…..can’t talk out of both sides of your mouth….just sayin

  • Davida on December 23 at 6:15 p.m.

    That was your exact post….copied/pasted in response to Spokanada’s post….which I so kindly also posted right before your response…..things that make you go…..Hmmmm

  • Open_Spokane on December 23 at 6:26 p.m.

    I wonder just how many city services will have to be cut to pay for our convicted police officer’s defense? Sure, Weights and Measures is being cut because it has more to do with consumer protection and not crooked police protection.

    I’m glad Mayor Verner has been sent packing her bags. It’s too bad she can’t be held personally responsible for her mis management of Spokane affairs.

    Why didn’t the City Legal department defend Karl? Or better yet, if you have to hire an outside lawyer - hire Russell Van Camp on permanent retainer for our police. That should keep the boys in blue in line.

  • Shelala on December 23 at 6:45 p.m.

    @Davida
    Why do you consistently equate anyone speaking up about their disgust for KT, his actions and those who support him, as cop haters? Do KT and his supporters comprise the entire department and it’s brass which would make you so comfortable as to speak for the all cops everywhere as when you claim that either the public supports KT or they are cop haters? I know many law enforcement officers from a lot of different agencies, Federal, State and local. I certainly don’t hate them and most do not support KT. I do abhor KT’s actions and those supporters who continually disrespect our judicial system and the public they serve.. You speak only for yourself and possibly for other KY supporters who may have granted you permission to do so.

  • Shelala on December 23 at 6:53 p.m.

    @Open_spokane
    I understand you opinion, but KT’s charges are Federal charges and as such are tried in Federal court. Our local government failed to charge KT.

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 6:55 p.m.

    Hey Davida? I’m surprised to see you here. I guess you haven’t had your talkin’ to yet.

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 6:58 p.m.

    Stay on topic, Davida. Hope you lose your job over all this.

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 7:01 p.m.

    Hey, Davida? Why did your cop buddy LIE? Why did he immediately start beating Otto over the head? But mostly, WHY DID HE LIE????

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 7:04 p.m.

    Hey, DAVIDa, Why are you trying to put MisJ on trial here??? You should be upholding the law on and off the clock. You’re probably on the clock right now, picking doughnut crumbs off your lap. Careful now, that powdered sugar on your upper lip sugar could be mistaken for drugs… which I suspect you are already on.

  • Slightlyworried on December 23 at 7:10 p.m.

    @BlondeSquawker:

    KT didn’t “immediately” start beating Otto over the head. The tape shows it was 2.2 seconds between the time KT stopped walking and the time he used deadly force by hitting Otto in the head. “Immediately” would have been more like 1.2 seconds.

    It was during this 2.2 seconds that KT claimed that Otto took a boxing stance, flexed his upper body, displayed the 2 liter bottle of Pepsi in a threatening manner, and began punching KT. Of course, the video only shows Otto standing in front of the candy bar display minding his own business before KT begins to savagedly beat him, but when you drink the 505 Kool Aid you don’t let a little thing like the unbiased facts get in the way of blind allegiance.

  • Nugget on December 23 at 7:15 p.m.

    WOW! Some people really don’t like the police do they?

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 7:22 p.m.

    How’s that, Nugget?

  • Slightlyworried on December 23 at 7:25 p.m.

    @Nugget:

    I love honest police who follow the constitution.

    What I don’t like is the six cops who claimed they had no idea how Otto went into cardiac arrest. So let’s look at the videotape:

    (1) Otto is hog-tied in violation of departmental policy; (2) Otto is left on his stomach in violation of department policy; (3) Otto has a non-rebreather mask placed over his nose and mouth in violation of departmental policy; and (4) Otto has not one, not two, not three, … but six officers put one or both of their knees on his back while he is face down in the Zip Trip gasping for air. No wonder he was in cardiac arrest for over three minutes by the time the paramedics arrived.

    But guess what, not one of those six officer ever mentioned the hog-tie, face down placement, non-rebreather mask, or knees in the back.

    That damn videotape! It almost makes you see the truth when you are drinking the 505 Kool Aid. Cheers!

  • liveinfearoftheSPD on December 23 at 7:28 p.m.

    Sounds like the same old song and dance from KT’s team.

    MisJ it appears you have an admirer, stalker. How many posts do you suppose she read of yours to find that?

    A little obsessed Davida?

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 7:29 p.m.

    Yep, she’s stalking MsJ. Boo hoo Davidoo.

  • liveinfearoftheSPD on December 23 at 7:31 p.m.

    KXLY reports that KK is paying for his own defense. Not the taxpayers.

    KXLY 4 News ‎ — Taxpayers aren’t paying for Thompson’s attorney. Thompson is.
    49 minutes ago

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 7:33 p.m.

    Ah! With the money from the “NON PROFIT”?

  • Shelala on December 23 at 7:34 p.m.

    @Davida
    I don’t presume to speak for Msjustice and I don’t think you are on drugs playing on the computer on duty, but you can still be a law enforcement friendly citizen and not a supporter of KT, his actions or those officers who support him. KT has developed an almost cult like following by some SPD officers at the possible risk of their jobs and public standing. That spells trouble to me. If you can’t understand KT did anything wrong, how can you possibly tell me you don’t pose the same risk to the public?

  • Slightlyworried on December 23 at 7:45 p.m.

    505 Kool Aid now in three new flavors: Juror Misconduct, Insufficient Evidence, and Flawed Jury Instructions.

    And don’t forget our original flavor: Otto Took a Boxing Stance.

  • Shelala on December 23 at 7:52 p.m.

    @liveinfear
    I see nothing like this anywhere.

  • misjustice on December 23 at 7:55 p.m.

    Well, officer Zinkgraf, if you dig enough through my posts to the SR there are many instances where I have praised cops; mostly those that I worked with while I was an advocate for victim’s of rape.

    I’m not really sure what your point is; assuming that you have one.

    Nice profile pic on the WE HEART THOMPSON THE CONVICT FaceBook page, btw; a dog, how fitting.

    And please, don’t anyone flag officer Zinkgraf’s posts here; I need them to continue building the record of her unprofessional conduct.

  • misjustice on December 23 at 7:59 p.m.

    And please, if you are going to “quote” someone, officer, use proper form; it’s very difficult to discern what part of your post you are attributing to me and which parts are your rants.

    Just sayin’…

  • Shelala on December 23 at 8:00 p.m.

    @Msjustice
    We don’t need to build cases. I am certain that has already started. Flagged comments are still accessible, just hidden from public.

  • liveinfearoftheSPD on December 23 at 8:02 p.m.

    @Shelala They did an article on this story a couple hours ago via FaceBook, in the comments They say it twice.

  • misjustice on December 23 at 8:11 p.m.

    AHHH, I found what officer Z is cryin’ about; the post wasn’t even mine, it was GrammaAgain - using my avatar name - remember last night kiddies when she got banned from the site? Well this is an old post made by her; when someone changes their profile name all of their old posts “roll” over to the new name…

    What officer Z attributes to ME, the one and only MisJ, is actually a rant by GrammaAgain; see why I didn’t want her co-opting my thread I.D.???? It’s caused officer Z to get her panties in a twist over something that I NEVER WROTE…

    “misjustice on January 08 at 9:55 a.m.

    Since when does law enforcement have to have different laws than those they serve & protect?

    Would any other person that had a hit & run & a DUI while not on the job be fired from their job? No, I think not. So why would you think this man should have been fired? What if it was a mailman? Would he be fired from his delivery job (after all he drives a government car also)? What about a school bus driver that was at a Christmas function & not on the job? Should that person lose their job (After all they are driving our children around. Don’t you want our children safe)?

    Laws don’t — & shouldn’t — differentiate because of professions. Get over it.

    Besides, dealing with idiots (like some of those on this site) every day should give them a pass to drink when off duty!!!”

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/jan/08/change-in-dui-law-means-fired-cop-can-be-rehired/

    That rant is pure GrammaAgain, not mine…
    *sigh*

  • ChiefsFan21 on December 23 at 8:16 p.m.

    Same old song and dance.”We will not accept any responsibility because we wear a badge”.Is that painting with a wide brush spokane?Well ask yourself this question.How many officers who’ve sworn to serve and protect you have stood up for the people on what’s right in this case?That right there will tell you exactly why this public has zero trust in its law enforcement.Thompson should do his time and local law enforcement should learn from this instead of throwing tantrums and saluting convicted felons.

  • misjustice on December 23 at 8:16 p.m.

    Here, officer:

    michaelm on December 22 at 9:38 p.m.

    “misjustice, I’ve removed the privileges from the poster formerly known as Gramma and sent a note to Ryan Pitts (ryanp@spokesman.com) telling him why. I’m sorry it took as long to get to it as it did.

    Without telling anyone how it was done, I can say that avatars are really easy to lift, and there’s nobody here who monitors that sort of thing. If you have any comments/complaints of a general or specific nature, Ryan would be glad to hear them.”

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/dec/22/house-gop-drops-opposition-payroll-tax-cuts/

  • PlanB on December 23 at 8:19 p.m.

    Can’t wait for the federal indictment of Carl O to come through for his role in the conspiracy.

  • Pat O'Leary on December 23 at 8:20 p.m.

    davida
    I bet Karl’s mom used to like him. See, I can say something nice.

  • Slightlyworried on December 23 at 8:20 p.m.

    I never did trust Gramma.

  • misjustice on December 23 at 8:23 p.m.

    Talk on the street was that Gramms was really Annie Kirkpatrick; some people say…

  • ChiefsFan21 on December 23 at 8:30 p.m.

    Carl O - “That’s not fair, The prosectution was allowed to use admissable facts and to tell the truth like Otto was innocent”

  • liveinfearoftheSPD on December 23 at 8:32 p.m.

    Wow MisJ, aren’t you special! One cop emulates you and one reads every post you ever made. And to be emulated by the Chief herself, now that is something. :)

  • Slightlyworried on December 23 at 8:35 p.m.

    I don’t know who’s in more denial: the OJ Simpson jury or the SPD. In both cases the evidence was overwhelming. In both cases each group refuses to admit the truth. Weird.

  • misjustice on December 23 at 9:05 p.m.

    @ liveinfear, see why I don’t post under my “real” name????
    ; )

    I’m not certain about the Gramma/AK link, just repeating what “some people say”….

  • Shelala on December 23 at 9:07 p.m.

    @liveinfear
    I just went there and saw the FB entries you referred to entered by KXLY news. If you follow their thread, you will see their source was this SR news article we are posting on.Strange that KXLY would get their news from SR. I think whomever is posting on their site, doesn’t have a grasp on the legal system or they have some really really breaking news.

  • liveinfearoftheSPD on December 23 at 9:18 p.m.

    @MisJ, I figured it was just a rumor, but on the off chance……

    @Shelala I was surprised to read that KK was paying his own way. It is the first and only time I have seen that said. So I wonder who their source is other than the SR.

  • Shelala on December 23 at 9:30 p.m.

    @liveinfear
    Dunno, good question. I see that their sole source was SR and they even got that out of context. If they are wrong, maybe they should brush up before making such comments as a news source and before trying to correct their followers in their remarks with misinformation.Maybe they know something the rest of us don’t.

  • D Statler on December 23 at 10:35 p.m.

    Too bad every other indigent represented by the public defenders office didn’t get this type treatment. I could see the Spokane County Jail half empty if they were. This fiasco needs to be put to rest and the Zehm family should be fairly compensated for their loss immediately.
    Karl,it is time to go to jail and take the other five dysfunctional officers with you. They truely are just as guilty in Otto’s death as you were and should be prosecuted as such. Enjoy your last Christmas at home friend. Otto won’t be able to make it to his home for Christmas. :^( I can only hope that the changes made since this senseless tragedy last forever.

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 10:43 p.m.

    So, Gramms and Z are in cahoots? Not surprising.

  • BlondeSquawker on December 23 at 11:05 p.m.

    Riddler, enjoy your bannination. You don’t get to talk like that here. You are violating the terms of use.

    Everyone flag the Riddler. Thanks.

  • ChiefsFan21 on December 23 at 11:10 p.m.

    A fair balance would be for the officers to uphold the code of conduct which in this case they failed miserably.The mayor and chief of police had to issue an apology on their behalf beings they didn’t have the jewels.

  • ??Riddler?? on December 23 at 11:17 p.m.

    ?? ChiefsFan21 ??

    ?? OK. Code of Conduct. I’ll go along with that, however…??

    ?? Just how specific is the Code of Conduct ( I’ll acknowledge that I have never read it). And who makes the determination of what is or is not allowed by the CoC (I don’t know that either) ??

    ?? Really, I don’t have a dog in this fight - just trying to get a straight (not wizeazz) answer from someone who really knows ??

  • Shelala on December 23 at 11:19 p.m.

    @Riddler
    You don’t “balance” your constitutional rights. I don’t think anyone is seeking to deprive anyone of their right to free speech or subject to arrest for speaking out. Your employer may not be too keen on maintaining your employment though and is not obligated to keep you on his payroll. Do you really think you can tell off your employer and keep your job because you are protected under the constitution? You sir, are an idiot.

  • ??Riddler?? on December 23 at 11:29 p.m.

    ?? Shelala ??

    ?? So what you really mean is you don’t agree with the public pronouncements and postings of KT supporters, and would like to assume the specific role of their employer ??

    ?? Have you considered running for mayor or applying for the vacant Chief of Police position ??

  • Ed Byrnes on December 23 at 11:49 p.m.

    Every offender has their due process rights and the offender who is the subject of this story has theirs.

    Once this last effort at exhausting all possibilities is over the offender will go where violent felony offenders belong, to prison.

    Hopefully some of the other violent felons who were party to the Zehm incident will be similarly prosecuted then incarcerated, of course after enjoying the due process that they individually and collectively denied to Otto Zehm.

    Questioning the authority of the SPD is not equivalent with hating cops. I have worked with other LLE agencies and have seen law enforcement done professionally, hence my combined disgust with the past and hope for the future of the SPD, though some USDOJ help is needed to get there.

    If some LEOs wonder why so many of us civilians have such low regard for the SPD please realize that this is the price paid for maintaining a code of silence.

    Ed Byrnes

  • Shelala on December 23 at 11:54 p.m.

    @Riddler
    If you pay taxes, you ARE their employer - even you if you pay taxes which IMO is a little scary.

  • ChiefsFan21 on December 23 at 11:58 p.m.

    Riddler the code of conduct is very specific.All it requires is a little reading and comprehension.I would hope those that are sworn to uphold it could pick up on it but it appears that was asking too much.Again this was made clear by mayor verner and the chief.

  • Davida on December 24 at 5:59 a.m.

    Once again you are assuming…I NEVER post while on duty….and have been assured I have 1st amendment rights just like everyone else….So go ahead save ALL my posts….I continue to uphold the law in a fair and professional way…I continue to uphold my oath and the constiution… Just because I proudly support KT does not mean I am refusing to do my job. I am entiltled to my suport of KT as a citizen. I came on here strictly as a citizen, and speak only for myself…. I have stated in previous post that I dont speak for SPD or any police personel…It is not my concern that you have introduced me as a SPD member… and THAT has nothing to do with any sort of policy violations…. That does not mean all the sudden I dont have the right to voice my personal opinion…So I am sorry that upsets you, but you have your opinion….which you so freely to express and I respect that…and I have my opinion…..which I am entitled to…no matter my profession….whether it be in the public sector, or private sector…..

  • brianrbreen on December 24 at 6:52 a.m.

    @Riddler

    Believe it or not, public employer does have some control over an employee exercising of their Constitutional Rights and there is quite a bit of case law in that regard.

    I personally don’t have a problem with officers posting on blogs whether they use their true names or not. I question the judgment in doing so, but that’s up to them. I just don’t understand how as law enforcement officers or law enforcement officers that have been terminated they continue to overlook the fact that their posts are discoverable. I would hate to be in the position several have put themselves in and have to explain my posts in a deposition or on the witness stand. Just think of all of the evidence from social media that has been introduced as evidence during trial and has been utilized in various affidavits, not that that would ever be the case here but, it’s something I sure would consider.

  • BlondeSquawker on December 24 at 7:20 a.m.

    DAVIDuh, Why did your buddy lie? Why did he bash Otto Zehm’s brain in?

    Anything you say (on or off duty) can and will be used against you, too. Why did you attempt to discredit MisJ? That’s twice now. You also said she wasn’t a vet, and you said she wrote something she did not. You can’t see the truth through the lies, can you?

  • BlondeSquawker on December 24 at 7:35 a.m.

    Some guys are hammering away, no pun intended, on KT on his supporters fb page. Will DAVIDuh ruin someone’s Xmas Eve trying to get those posts removed. OH MY HECK!!! HURRY!

  • lewis8457 on December 24 at 8:26 a.m.

    Davida i will gladly take one of those donut eating jobs you offered us cop haters. i would love to make 7 grand a month for doing a lot of nothing.

    and guess what i will come to work sober an work my whole shift too.

  • misjustice on December 24 at 8:36 a.m.

    Oooops!
    I’m still waiting for officer Zinkgraf to admit that she was wrong; she attributed words to me which are not mine. I will take the heat for my own opinions and posts but do not believe that I should have to defend myself against posts that are NOT mine.

    Waiting, officer….waiting….

  • misjustice on December 24 at 8:39 a.m.

    Blondie, I see what you mean…

    Davida Zinkgraf
    Karl…your on our minds….in our hearts….and we stand strong behind you…100% 505!!
    Wednesday at 8:01pm ·
    5 people like this..

    William Sheehan
    You won’t be the only ones standing behind him. :-)
    8 hours ago · 1.

    Oh, SNAP!

  • lewis8457 on December 24 at 8:40 a.m.

    Brian as we have seen the members of SPD are non too smart.

  • misjustice on December 24 at 9:21 a.m.

    Still waiting, officer….waiting….waiting….

    @ Blondie, they’ve been scrubbed. Glad that I got to read them first.

  • BlondeSquawker on December 24 at 9:21 a.m.

    I was also thinking about who will be standing behind KT in the slammer. Someone beat me to it! (no pun intended)

  • BlondeSquawker on December 24 at 9:24 a.m.

    They’re still on the screen shot I got. Read your e-mail. ; )

  • BlondeSquawker on December 24 at 9:27 a.m.

    They think they can silence us yet post over here without penalty. Good luck with that, DAVIDuh and duhRiddler. Lol.

  • misjustice on December 24 at 10:17 a.m.

    Jeff Kennedy
    Having to continuously remove comments and edit the page is a hint you are on the wrong side.
    3 minutes ago ·

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Support-Karl-Thompson/130290690659

    Still waiting for that apology, officer Zinkgraf…waiting…waiting…

  • misjustice on December 24 at 10:45 a.m.

    Garrick Bolyard
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017083878_spokane24m.html
    denial is not only a river in Egypt. Accept the fact that this man made huge mistakes, and he must be held accountable. I agree, he is becoming a media burning man, but the pragmaticism of that argument fails to accomidate the fact this man was completly wrong in his actions. Watch the videos for yourself, if you feel that they were doctored, that is your disposition. The level of police brutality in this country has become more visible in the communities light. We must stop both the witch hunt for officers but also must hold accountable police officers who overstep their bounds.
    a few seconds ago ·

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Support-Karl-Thompson/130290690659

  • ??Riddler?? on December 24 at 12:02 p.m.

    ?? misjustice ??

    ” We must stop BOTH the witch hunt for officers but also must hold accountable police officers who overstep their bounds. ”

    ?? Believe that ??

  • misjustice on December 24 at 12:19 p.m.

    Erin Blessing
    I am very glad Karl is getting to spend Christmas with his family and friends:) 100% 505
    48 minutes ago

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Support-Karl-Thompson/130290690659

    Yeah, too bad, officer Blessing that the same can not be said for Otto and HIS family and friends.

  • ??Riddler?? on December 24 at 2:25 p.m.

    ?? The Usual Suspects ??
    ?? Almost Christmas Eve, and you’re Trolling The Blogs??

    I’m going to do some ad hoc caroling
    and deliver a “Care Package.”

    ?? As Tiny Tim said, “God bless us, everyone!”

  • ramunrud on December 26 at 9:20 a.m.

    And so the adultery of our Judicial System begins again. The angel weeps the people moan and Otto sleeps. Makes me think of Nick Cave and The Weeping Song. Will no one rid us of this meddlesome retrial?

  • BlondeSquawker on December 26 at 9:47 a.m.

    Momma, Karl killed a man
    Slammed a baton upon his head
    Whacked him till he was
    Brain-dead

    Momma, life was lots of fun
    Now a cop will spend part of his
    In Federal prison

    Momma, oooooh, oooooh
    Why’d he have to lie?
    A judge is gonna say the same thing again tomorrow

    Carry out the sentence
    Carry out the sentence

    ‘Cause it doesn’t matter what they say
    What only matters now is Karl is gonna pay

  • BlondeSquawker on December 26 at 10:05 a.m.

    Karl’s just a poor cop
    Nobody loves him

    Had to divorce his wife
    Just to say he lives in poverty

    And we’ll pick up the tab to feed this monstrosity

    Took someone’s life and now he wants to be free

    He’s just a poor cop
    Nobody loves him

    Oh, Momma Mia, Momma Mia, Momma Mia “set me free”
    Give me back my baton so I can clean up the streets!
    Doin’ what right for this big stinky city!

    So they think they can sentence me and send me away!
    Not according to my cop buddies who wrote nice things
    For me on Christmas Day!

    Oooooh, baby, jury sent you away, baby
    Just gotta do your time, just gotta do your time and go away

    ‘Cause it doesn’t matter what they say
    What only matters now is Karl is gonna pay

  • misjustice on December 26 at 10:20 a.m.

    Good ones, Blondie.

    I happen to like this Neil Young song, it’s about dirty cops:
    Crime In The City

    “Well, the cop made the showdown
    He was sure he was right
    He had all of the lowdown
    From the bank heist last night
    His best friend was the robber
    And his wife was a thief
    All the children were killers
    They couldn’t get no relief
    The bungalow was surrounded
    When a voice loud and clear
    Said, Come on out
    with your hands up
    Or we’ll blow you out of here.
    There was a face in the window
    The TV cameras rolled
    Then they cut to the announcer
    And the story was told.”

    continues…

    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/n/neil+young/crime+in+the+city_20099312.html

  • BlondeSquawker on December 26 at 10:37 a.m.

    ….Yes, MisJ!

    And who could forget that timeless classic

    “I beat the Retard”

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