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February 1, 2012 in News, Region
Cancer charity halts grants to Planned Parenthood
Inland Northwest chapter expresses disappointment
NEW YORK — The nation’s leading breast-cancer charity, Susan G. Komen for the Cure, is halting its partnerships with Planned Parenthood affiliates — creating a bitter rift, linked to the abortion debate, between two iconic organizations that have assisted millions of women.
The change will mean a cutoff of hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants, mainly for breast exams.
Planned Parenthood says the move results from Komen bowing to pressure from anti-abortion activists. Komen says the key reason is that Planned Parenthood is under investigation in Congress — a probe launched by a conservative Republican who was urged to act by anti-abortion groups.
Since 2008, the charity’s fundraising has provided about $80,000 toward breast health programs operating by the Planned Parenthood affiliate serving Eastern Washington and North Idaho, women’s health advocates say.
“As a health care provider to more than 36,000 women in our community, Planned Parenthood is a trusted leader in helping women identify breast cancer early. Women are deeply alarmed that the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation appears to have succumbed to political pressure from a vocal minority”, said Karl Eastlund, President & CEO of Yakima-based Planned Parenthood of Greater Washington and North Idaho. “For years, opponents of women’s health have waged an aggressive pressure campaign aimed at the Susan G. Komen Foundation at the expense of women’s health and lives.”
The rupture, which has not been publicly announced as it unfolded, is wrenching for some of those who’ve learned about it and admire both organizations.
“We’re kind of reeling,” said Patrick Hurd, who is CEO of Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Virginia — recipient of a 2010 grant from Komen — and whose wife, Betsi, is a veteran of several Komen fundraising races and is currently battling breast cancer.
“It sounds almost trite, going through this with Betsi, but cancer doesn’t care if you’re pro-choice, anti-choice, progressive, conservative,” Hurd said. “Victims of cancer could care less about people’s politics.”
Planned Parenthood said the Komen grants totaled roughly $680,000 last year and $580,000 the year before, going to at least 19 of its affiliates for breast-cancer screening and other breast-health services.
Komen spokeswoman Leslie Aun said the cutoff results from the charity’s newly adopted criteria barring grants to organizations that are under investigation by local, state or federal authorities. According to Komen, this applies to Planned Parenthood because it’s the focus of an inquiry launched by Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., seeking to determine whether public money was improperly spent on abortions.
Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, has depicted Stearns’ probe as politically motivated and said she was dismayed that it had contributed to Komen’s decision to halt the grants to PPFA affiliates.
“It’s hard to understand how an organization with whom we share a mission of saving women’s lives could have bowed to this kind of bullying,” Richards told The Associated Press. “It’s really hurtful.”
Reaction to the news was swift and passionate. On Twitter, it was one of the most discussed topics Tuesday evening, with some tweets praising Komen’s decision and others angrily vowing never to give to it again.
Two Democrats in Congress — Sen. Patty Murray of Washington and Rep. Michael Honda of California — issued statements denouncing Komen’s action.
“I am stunned and saddened,” said Honda, whose longtime chief of staff, Jennifer VanderHeide, had breast cancer last year. “I call on Komen to reconsider this decision, stand strong in the face of political pressure and do the right thing for the health of millions of women everywhere.”
Anti-abortion groups, in contrast, welcomed the news. The Alliance Defense Fund praised Komen “for seeing the contradiction between its lifesaving work and its relationship with an abortionist that has ended millions of lives.”
A statement issued Tuesday evening by Komen made no reference to the vehement reactions, instead citing its new grant-making criteria and pledging to ensure there were no gaps in service to women.
“While it is regrettable when changes in priorities and policies affect any of our grantees, such as a long-standing partner like Planned Parenthood, we must continue to evolve to best meet the needs of the women we serve and most fully advance our mission,” the statement said.
Planned Parenthood has been a perennial target of protests, boycotts and funding cutoffs because of its role as the largest provider of abortions in the United States. Its nearly 800 health centers nationwide provide an array of other services, including birth control, testing for sexually transmitted diseases, and cancer screening.
According to Planned Parenthood, its centers performed more than 4 million breast exams over the past five years, including nearly 170,000 as a result of Komen grants.
Komen, founded in 1982, has invested more than $1.9 billion since then in breast-cancer research, health services and advocacy. Its Race for the Cure fundraising events have become a global phenomenon.
For all its mainstream popularity, however, Komen has been a target of anti-abortion groups since it began its partnerships with Planned Parenthood in 2005.
Life Decisions International includes Komen on its “boycott list” of companies and organizations that support or collaborate with Planned Parenthood. In December, Lifeway Christian Resources, the publishing division of the Southern Baptist Convention announced a recall of pink Bibles it had sold because some of the money generated for Komen was being routed to Planned Parenthood.
Aun, the Komen spokeswoman, said such pressure tactics were not the reason for the funding cutoff and cited Stearns’ House investigation as a key factor.
That investigation, which has no set timetable, was launched in September when Stearns asked Planned Parenthood for more than a decade’s worth of documents.
Stearns, in a statement emailed to the AP on Monday, said he is still working with Planned Parenthood on getting the requested documents. He said he is looking into possible violations of state and local reporting requirements, as well as allegations of financial abuse, and would consider holding a hearing depending on what he learns.
Many of the allegations were outlined in a report presented to Stearns last year by Americans United for Life, a national anti-abortion group, which urged him to investigate.
Democrats and Planned Parenthood supporters have assailed the probe as an unwarranted political ploy.
Komen, while not publicly announcing its decision to halt the grants, has conveyed the news to its 100-plus U.S. affiliates. Richards said she was informed via a phone call from Komen’s president, Elizabeth Thompson, in December.
“It was incredibly surprising,” Richards said. “It wasn’t even a conversation — it was an announcement.”
Richards subsequently sent a letter to Komen’s top leaders — CEO Nancy Brinker and board chairman Dr. LaSalle D. Leffall, Jr. — requesting a meeting with the board and asserting that Komen had misrepresented Planned Parenthood’s funding-eligibility status in some states.
According to Planned Parenthood, the Komen leaders replied to Richards with a brief letter ignoring the request for a meeting, defending the new grant criteria, and adding, “We understand the disappointment of any organization that is affected by these policy and strategy updates.”
Aun, in a telephone interview, said Komen was not accusing Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing.
“We want to maintain a positive relationship with them,” she said. “We’re not making any judgment.”
Richards said Planned Parenthood is intent on raising funds quickly to replace the lost grants so that women in need do not go without breast-screening services. Already, the family foundation of Dallas oilman/philanthropist Lee Fikes and his wife, Amy, has donated $250,000 for this purpose, Planned Parenthood said.
The Komen decision was perplexing to Dottie Lamm, a Denver newspaper columnist and breast cancer survivor. She has done fundraising for Planned Parenthood, participated in several Races for the Cure, and serves on an honorary advisory council for the local Komen affiliate.
“It really makes me sad,” said Lamm, wife of former Colorado Gov. Richard Lamm. “I kind of suspect there’s a political agenda that got to Komen … I hope it can be worked out.”
Stephanie Kight, a vice president with Planned Parenthood of Orange and San Bernardino Counties, said her affiliate in Southern California received a Komen grant for 2011 and was able to obtain an additional grant of $120,000 for 2012 by signing the deal with its local Komen counterpart just before Komen’s new criteria took effect. Under the criteria, no further grants will be allowed unless the pending House inquiry is resolved in Planned Parenthood’s favor.
Kight said her conversations with local Komen leaders indicated there was a shared sense of frustration over the national Komen decision.
“One of the things these organizations share is the trust of women across the United States,” Kight said. “That’s what we’re concerned about — not losing the trust of these women, who turn to both of us at their most difficult moments.”
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Dazzeetrader11 on February 01 at 12:45 p.m.
Good! Who wants to donate useful money to something that you don’t believe in? Apparently NOT the Komen group. Good for them. Free speech in action.
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 01 at 1:06 p.m.
This has nothing to do with free speech, its purely political, but whatever.
Its a shame that two organizations whose singular mission is to help women get better health care cannot get along over something like this.
This is a terrible day for women with breast cancer.
Spokalou on February 01 at 1:09 p.m.
Komen succumbed to political pressure from radical anti-abortion groups. People who support the lifesaving services of Planned Parenthood can donate directly to PP’s Breast Health Emergency Fund.
Al_Loysius on February 01 at 1:23 p.m.
Thank God.
There are lots of places for women to go get cancer screenings besides those abortion mills.
Don’t forget that if PP’s founder, Margaret Sanger ( proponent of eugenics) had her way, the numbers of blacks, non-aryans and other “undesirables” would have been reduced by means of abortion.
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 01 at 1:29 p.m.
Really Al_Loysius? Do we need to bring up all the racists, bigots and overall haters from the republicans? Stick to the topic, its about breast cancer, not racism.
Diana on February 01 at 1:38 p.m.
Note for the coat hanger crowd: Planned Parenthood = 97% women’s health care services, 3% legal abortions. As the largest provider of health care, prevention and health education services for low income women in the country, they prevent far more abortions than they perform.
@Al_loysious, try to stay in this century. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t have one.
MrNatural on February 01 at 1:53 p.m.
Manipulative partisan politicizing of public health is a mistake and unconscionable…so you sacrifice the lives of many women in an attempt to save fetuses…this is moronic at best…
Al_Loysius on February 01 at 1:56 p.m.
Nobody is being endangered. There are multiple options for breast cancer screenings besides PP.
Now pro-life people can feel good about supporting Komen events without the concern that some of their money goes to the nation’s largest abortion provider.
It is a good day; one in which the barbarism of abortion takes a hit.
RedCedar on February 01 at 2:21 p.m.
Actually, the victims could not care less about politics.
I see a little bit of sleaze on both sides. The congressional inquiry is sleazy, but so was the Komen decision to not fund organizations that are “under investigation”. These days, pretty much anybody who does anything remotely controversial or as managed annoy anyone can come “under investigation”.
On the other hand, I’m having a real problem these days with charities that give to other charities. I know UGN started it, but you knew what you were doing if you donated to them, because they had no specific purpose in their charter. When I give to an organization that purports to do good work or fund research in a certain area, I want it to stick to that area, and spend the money efficiently rather than filter it through the lossy bureaucracies of other charities. I realize there are times when it might be good for one charity to give to another, but they should be few and far between.
Part of the problem is exactly what’s happened here — the donors may agree with the charity they think they’re giving to, but not with the charities it
Diana on February 01 at 2:39 p.m.
Sure, PLUBs* can feel good about your donation to Komen (not that you’ll actually make one) because a whopping 11% of your donation actually goes to cancer research. Big whoop!
*Pro life until birth
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 01 at 2:45 p.m.
Whats funny is we have people in here fighting hard against abortion and making sure every baby is born. Then in the article about school levies they are fighting and arguing against educating these kids once they are born.
Diana said it pretty well, Pro Life Until Birth, after that….screw the kids, they don’t contribute to the country, why should I pay for them to go to school?
misjustice on February 01 at 2:52 p.m.
“Love the fetus, hate the (Poor) child.”
crazyivan44 on February 01 at 3:16 p.m.
Let’s take Sanger a step further since it is relevant. She subscribed to many general philosophies that Adolf Hitler did during the holocaust. Did I just say that? Yes, I said Hitler. Sanger just attempted to keep her agenda more muted and focused on impoverished minorities. If you have proof that PP has completely moved on from it’s dark beginnings then please speak up. If you are just uncomfortable with the facts of the history of PP and want to change the subject by saying it isn’t relevant and somehow what I have just said is radical then aren’t you really just part of the problem? The reason this is relevant is because THIS IS PART OF WHY KOMEN SUSPENDED FUNDING.
PP may provide 97% women’s health services and 3% abortion but you know what? That is 3% too many. Until they stop murdering the unborn they do not deserve any support and KUDOS to the Komen center for taking a stand. If you do not want to deal with the “unpleasantness” and “burden” of an “unwanted child” then keep your zipper up (both sexes), use birth control, and if you get pregnant then guess what, they invented this thing called adoption. What a concept. Instead of committing murder you can give the child up so it at least has a slim chance in this life. In fact most hospitals, police stations, fire departments, and some other public agencies let you walk in and hand over your newborn and they don’t even take your information so you never have to think about it again. Programs like this were put in place to provide alternatives, so don’t tell me there aren’t any!
Al_Loysius on February 01 at 3:29 p.m.
The whole argument that pro-lifers/people of faith love unborn children but “hate” babies, kids, etc. is pure liberal horse puckey.
There is no evidence for that whatsoever beyond some mindless drivel from a lib moron like Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow (most people don’t know who they are since their ratings are miniscule).
Al_Loysius on February 01 at 3:31 p.m.
Editor:
If the morning paper tomorrow has an article in favor of PP, I would hope you run a disclaimer that the Cowles family have been long-time supporters of Planned Parenthood.
misjustice on February 01 at 3:42 p.m.
Someone whined:
“The whole argument that pro-lifers/people of faith love unborn children but “hate” babies, kids, etc. is pure liberal horse puckey.”
“There is no evidence for that whatsoever…”
Oh, YES there is.
All one has to do is read the threads on these pages everyday.
Read the hue and cry from cheapskates that don’t want to pay for schools, read the name calling and judgments rendered towards poor folks that get food stamps, read the character attacks against the homeless that recently were served by compassionate health care providers here in Spokan’t….
There is PLENTY of evidence to support that “many” love the fetus but hate the (Poor) child; and you don’t have to look to freakin’ hard to find it, sadly….
*sigh*
cdspokesreader on February 01 at 3:55 p.m.
Maybe the conservative anti-abortion people would feel better if the money wasn’t spent on abortions but instead went to fund wars. For those of you that haven’t experienced it, an abortion is a terrible ordeal to live with, but at times may be better (in my opinion) than having to deal with the consequences later. I suppose it’s much better to fund a military that kills or results in the deaths of so many of our young men and women because that is totally justified. I am curious what the the totals are between abortions performed in this country over the last few years and how many lives were lost due to a senseless war.
RedCedar on February 01 at 4:02 p.m.
Abortion is like war in that planning ahead could usually preclude the need for it, and yet sometimes it’s the least bad option.
If this is going to become another abortion argument thread, though, I’m out of here.
paulti on February 01 at 4:19 p.m.
Rather cavalier Al(which seems to be a typical male response to a poor woman’s plight). Where do you purpose the women below go for health services?
From the Seattle Times:
In Clallam County, she said, a $52,492 Komen grant funded outreach to Native-American, Latina, underinsured and isolated women, including a mobile unit that screened and administered mammograms for more than 400 women last year. That grant runs through midyear.
“We won’t be applying for that money next year,” Glundberg-Prossor added.
In Idaho, a $23,544 grant helped bring screening to about 400 refugee women in the Boise-Twin Falls area last year. Glundberg-Prossor said the Idaho Komen affiliate told Planned Parenthood at the end of the year that the grant wouldn’t be renewed “because we were being investigated.”
I hate to say it but like it or not there will always be abortion. Do want them safe or performed in the basement of a south hill house like they were many years ago. If you don’t want easy access to abortion then support comprehensive sex education and free birth control. Oh wait you don’t want that either? Well you can’t have it both ways. The choice is yours. Which is more than most women are getting these days.
detroitdude on February 01 at 4:27 p.m.
crazyivan44 said: “Let’s take Sanger a step further since it is relevant. She subscribed to many general philosophies that Adolf Hitler did during the holocaust. Did I just say that? Yes, I said Hitler.”
Wow, lol. Sanger DID NOT subscribe to “many general philosophies” that Hitler did. The only thing they really had in common was the eugenics thing, which both of them still interpreted differently.
Al Loysias said:”Don’t forget that if PP’s founder, Margaret Sanger ( proponent of eugenics) had her way, the numbers of blacks, non-aryans and other “undesirables” would have been reduced by means of abortion.”
That is a false statement and a lie. Sanger was concerned much more with contraception being available to women and wrote with great disdain about abortion. She considered it a last resort but ultimately a choice for each woman to make. This is very comprehensive and written by the woman herself
http://www.bartleby.com/1013/10.html
jessiepn on February 01 at 5:03 p.m.
I just sent an extra donation to Planned Parenthood Federation of America. The ones really being harmed by the Susan G. Komen Foundation’s decision to de-fund are the women who rely on Planned Parenthood for breast cancer screening and other services – which services make up 97 percent of what PPFA does.
jdspokanewa on February 01 at 5:16 p.m.
jessiepn, as tax refund time rolls through, my charitable donations to Susan G. Komen will cease. I have informed them today that their political decision has repercussions and my donations will instead be sent to Planned Parenthood.
My mother is currently being treated for breast cancer, my grandmother is a double survivor, and an aunt who is a survivor. I used to be very active with donations and walks for Susan G. Komen, that was the past.
crazyivan44 on February 01 at 5:22 p.m.
detroitdude, Hitler’s centerpiece was for shaping the way the human race was composed going forward. Sanger’s centerpiece was weeding out the deformed, the handicapped, the disabled, and the poor. Respectfully, what someone writes and what their actions dictate do not always align unfortunately. She gathered much support by hiding her agenda under the cover of women’s rights, even though she was largely using women’s empowerment to further her own agenda at the expense of those women that supported her.
Before anyone launches a tirade on how my statement is bigoted and chauvinistic and oppressive, I request that you go perform your own research before giving in to a knee jerk reaction.
Additionally you can search for former PP employees that now speak out against the atrocities this organization commits, including some folks that were fairly high in the organization. Norma McCorvey, the woman behind Roe v Wade, has herself come to Christ and has waged a long battle in an attempt to get this misguided law reversed. I believe it is a testament that this woman has come about face and is working hard to correct an injustice in this country and get Roe v Wade overturned.
Diana on February 01 at 5:25 p.m.
Bagger wrote: “There is no evidence for that whatsoever beyond some mindless drivel from a lib moron like Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow (most people don’t know who they are since their ratings are miniscule).”
Oh, no. Not the ratings put-down. Anything but that.
But speaking of morons, I’m not sure what part of Planned Parenthood does more to prevent unwanted pregnancies than any provider in the United States do they not understand?
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 01 at 5:30 p.m.
CrazyIvan, as paulti said above, there will ALWAYS be abortion. If you overturn Roe v Wade all you will do is make women go underground to basements and back alley doctors to get the abortion. So you would rather overturn the law and thereby putting more women in danger of getting abortions done by people who are not licensed to preform them, killing both baby and mother? So instead of letting a women choose how she lives her live you would rather FORCE her to have the baby, even if she raped by someone or raped by her father you would still force the women to have the baby, making her relive the worst thing to ever happen to her everyday?
Love republicans who want the government out of everything, but then want the government telling women how they can go about their lives.
misjustice on February 01 at 5:35 p.m.
Komen is facing a backlash concerning this decision.
preceeds…
“Komen has faced a massive social media backlash since announcing the decision, with angry people flocking to its message boards and Facebook wall to announce that they will no longer donate to the breast cancer charity.”
continues…
“The main sentiment among the thousands of people posting online seems to be that regardless of one’s position on the issue of abortion, it is wrong to politicize women’s health. According to a new Polipulse analysis of online conversations about the issue, only 26 percent of people believe Komen made the right decision. Nearly a quarter of the people who expressed criticism of Komen’s decision online said they were going to pull their donations from Komen.”
In contrast, Planned Parenthood has seen a huge influx of financial donations in the 24 hours since Komen broke ties. While the organization has not officially released the new donation numbers yet, a source close to the issue said they’ve raised “hundreds of thousands” of dollars in individual donations during that period. That, combined with a donation of $250,000 from Texas oil executive Lee Fikes and his wife Amy for a “Breast Health Emergency Fund,” could put the family planning provider on track to match or surpass the roughly $680,000 it received from Komen in 2011.”
“Planned Parenthood said it also saw a spike in people making appointments for breast examinations Wednesday.”
“The silver lining is that more people than ever are aware that Planned Parenthood provides breast exams, and we’re seeing more people calling us today to make an appointment,” Tait Sye, a spokesperson for Planned Parenthood, told HuffPost. “Politics should not get in the way of women’s health, and people respond powerfully when they see politics interfering with women’s health.”
“UPDATE: 3:40 p.m. — Planned Parenthood announced on Wednesday that it has received $400,000 from about 6,000 donors since Komen announced it was cutting funding to the organization on Tuesday afternoon.”
“The donations “send a message to stand up to bullying and protect access to health care,” said Sye.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/susan-g-komen_n_1247262.html
crazyivan44 on February 01 at 5:37 p.m.
No I am not against allowing exceptions for rape and incest, but thank you for making assumptions and stereotyping my beliefs. It is about as classy as your avatar of two elephants humping.
Diana on February 01 at 5:39 p.m.
crazyivan, why are you making this thread about Sanger and Hitler?
Pigrobin on February 01 at 5:40 p.m.
Let’s see…I’ve voted for every school levy and bond for the last 12 years—so I guess I love children, I’m not against abortion with the exception of late term ones—I guess I hate (some) fetuses, but most would judge me a fiscal conservative and I’m considering not voting for this levy—maybe I actually hate children. I think Obama is a lousy leader and will not vote for him—I guess (based on the typical liberal ranters) that makes me a racist. And, I fully understand why Komen would defund the nation’s LARGEST PROVIDER OF ABORTIONS. I’m surprised so many of you are shocked by this turn of events. Well no, I’m not really surprised since ideologues live in a black and white world.
crazyivan44 on February 01 at 5:46 p.m.
Diana, the Sanger comments I believe are very relevant for a true understanding of how PP got it’s beginnings, it is not intended to hijack the thread on a tangent. Most folks I have talked to over the years when PP comes up do not know the history of how it began so I wanted to throw it out there to add some perspective on this incident.
misjustice on February 01 at 5:51 p.m.
LIRWL: “Love republicans who want the government out of everything, but then want the government telling women how they can go about their lives.”
Yup! That about sums it up.
Oh, that and the fact that they support “state forced pregnancy” for poor women but after the kid is born, it’s on it’s own. Because they also don’t want to fund Food Stamps, WIC, schools, Pell Grants, subsidized housing, or any of the other programs that help poor folks with kids. Love the fetus but hate the (Poor) child.
Guess on some level it is the kid’s fault; they should have chosen better parents. Rich ones, in fact.
And one more thing, rich women will ALWAYS be able to get their safe, clean abortions; always have, always will. Poor women? Not so much…
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 01 at 5:53 p.m.
CrazyIvan, free speech is great, I love my avatar, thank you very much.
Also, I do apologize for assuming you wouldn’t make exceptions for rape and incest, I am glad to hear you aren’t like many anti-abortion people.
crazyivan44 on February 01 at 5:55 p.m.
I’m not saying you do not have a right to have it. And thank you for not lumping me in with the masses :)
Diana on February 01 at 6:03 p.m.
Somebody mooed: “Well no, I’m not really surprised since ideologues live in a black and white world.”
Look who’s talking.
JBlim on February 01 at 6:14 p.m.
Funny how right-wingers cry about being forced to either have health insurance (as if that were a bad thing) or pay a penalty, but are happy to force a raped teenager to have a baby. Seriously, what is wrong with these people?
Rod_Foss on February 01 at 6:48 p.m.
Who cares what Komen’s “real” reason is? I’ll take their word it’s policy about a federal investigation.
What part of private charity do you not understand? Explain why you should have the power (and I believe you will have someday) to force a private charity to give according to your philosophy (and preferably, dictates)?
Pigrobin on February 01 at 6:52 p.m.
Go ahead, explain Diana. You love to categorize, label, and castigate anyone and everyone who looks at the world differently than you do. Please list the major (any) issues you disagree with that are espoused by the liberal left. I’m curious to see if you are the talking points person you seem to be or someone who evaluates each issue on its own merits. I know jblim is since he’s as much as said so in previous posts. Don’t be shy.
Diana on February 01 at 6:54 p.m.
“You love to categorize, label, and castigate anyone and everyone who looks at the world differently than you do.”
Look who’s talking.
Spokalou on February 01 at 7:01 p.m.
The Catholics who live in glass houses best not throw stones. Did Margaret Sanger endorse eugenics ideas 95 years ago? yes. But it’s not like she was a pedophile raping children in the last decade.
Pigrobin on February 01 at 7:05 p.m.
“I think this place is restricted Diana, so don’t tell ‘em you’re Jewish, okay? Fine.” RD (1980)
greenlibertarian on February 01 at 8:46 p.m.
Pigrobin on February 01 at 7:05 p.m.
“I think this place is restricted Diana, so don’t tell ‘em you’re Jewish, okay? Fine.” RD (1980)
Explain yourself, please.
greenlibertarian on February 01 at 8:53 p.m.
An organization named after a Jew, founded by a Jew (Brinkman, Susan’s sister who now runs the outfit on a $650k salary), somehow has to cater to fundamentalist Christians?
Strange.
Oh well, looks like PP has already made up the donations they got from Big Cancer, aka Komen. And Komen’s rep has taken a hit.
Al_Loysius on February 01 at 8:53 p.m.
Lots and lots of other sources for breast screening. Just google. By the way, PP never does the breast exams on site. They farm them out. They don’t have room for other stuff in their abortion mills.
Al_Loysius on February 01 at 8:58 p.m.
Here is a pleasant little quote from Margaret Sanger:
jdspokanewa on February 01 at 9:07 p.m.
rod_foss,
What part of being upset that our donations are going to a politically charged group? What part of pulling our donations and sending that money to groups who actually help women do you not understand preacher? You have extremist opinions and you lack the basic foundation of how things work.
misjustice on February 01 at 9:15 p.m.
Love it!
Planned Parenthood garners MORE monetary support due to the political machinations of Komen; while Komen loses support and gets burned with social media.
I guess that the people have spoken…
; )
Pigrobin on February 01 at 9:22 p.m.
Sorry I lost you on the Caddy Shack reference Greenlib. It’s a simple statement on tolerance and the futility of the failure to embrace diversity. Or it’s just a funny line from a dumb comedy that means nothing.
Drones to the left of me, drones to the right, stuck in the middle with you.
greenlibertarian on February 01 at 9:32 p.m.
Al_Loysius on February 01 at 8:53 p.m.
By the way, PP never does the breast exams on site. They farm them out. They don’t have room for other stuff in their abortion mills.
I see Al’s pushing urban legends again, his stock in trade.
Would that he’d speak out against the pederasty/pedophilia in his “beloved” Catholic church.
greenlibertarian on February 01 at 9:34 p.m.
Thanks for the clarification, Pigrobin. I’m a big fan of the movie, not big enough though, apparently…
jdspokanewa on February 01 at 9:35 p.m.
To the best of my knowledge, PP does not perform abortions on-site. And 3% of all funding toward abortion costs is hardly running an “abortion mill.”
greenlibertarian on February 01 at 9:41 p.m.
misjustice on February 01 at 9:15 p.m.
Love it!
Planned Parenthood garners MORE monetary support due to the political machinations of Komen; while Komen loses support and gets burned with social media.
I guess that the people have spoken…
; )
Totally concur, my friend.
Fundies are incapable of understanding the LAW of unintended consequences which in this case are 1, MORE support for PP, and 2, a major hit to the reputation (and likely the coffers) of Komen Cancer, Inc. ©.
Ed Byrnes on February 01 at 11:12 p.m.
Any private foundation has a right to make any funding decisions they want.
When a private foundation makes a political decision, or a decision that appears to be political, then others have a right to criticize them.
Perhaps next year’s Race for the Cure will be visited by protesters, who being within their rights, will use a political tool to criticize what strongly appears to be a political decision.
Anyone who wishes can make a private financial decision and no longer donate to Komen or support any runners in their events.
This is how an open society works.
Ed
PROFINTOX on February 02 at 12:51 p.m.
So many tangents…. But are they really relevant? Did Sanger hold some beliefs that most would find disgusting, racist etc??? It would appear so. But does that really impact PPs mission today? I doubt it. If you read through the writings of Martin Luther, you will see that he had about just as good of a view of the Jews as did Hitler — in fact, his treatise “On The Jews and Their Lies” suggests a solution just short of what Hitler himself suggested. So, does that mean that we should view the Lutheran church based on Luther’s warped anti-Semitic views? Does that mean all Lutherans today are of similar vein? Obviously not. So while Sanger had some disgusting viewpoints, I really do not think it is relevant to the arguments on the thread unless one can pretty much prove they represent the mission of PP today. And I am quite certain no one can. One point though I think deserves arguing and that is whether this really does put women at risk. I am not an expert but I would guess there are several other avenues for breast exams that women can take, including ones that can accomodate those of limited means. If that is the case, I would not think this really puts people at increased risk. But I could be wrong — feel free to educate me on that point without making a pointless diatribe.
gotcha on February 03 at 4:17 p.m.
Komen foundation will recive a black eye out of this and possibly a bluddy nose.
I believe everyone has to make a choice on giving birth or having an abortion. I certainly would not want to make a decesion like that for anyone since they have to live with their decesion. However I do not want my tax dollars suporting abortion efforts.