February 5, 2012 in City

Liberty Lake dealership rolls out new Porsche 911

Chelsea Bannach The Spokesman-Review

Tags:Liberty LakeporschePorsche 911Porsche of Spokane

Picture story: Porsche party in Liberty Lake

Porsche enthusiast and owner Karch Polgar, holding the camera at right, takes a picture of the newly unveiled Porsche on Saturday at the dealership in Liberty Lake. To the left of Polgar is sales manager Klaus Kindor.
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A bit of automotive past and present came together Saturday at an area dealership.

Porsche aficionados – some call themselves “addicts” – ogled a collection of every generation of the Porsche 911 at Porsche of Spokane in Liberty Lake. They also celebrated the unveiling of the new Porsche 911 – the seventh generation since its 1963 inception.

“There’s an enormous amount of history,” sales manager Klaus Kindor said about the vintage cars. The collection was assembled by the Inland Northwest Porsche Club.

Considered one of the world’s most revered sports cars, the Porsche 911 has largely remained the same over the years. But the new 911 is different from its forebear in many ways.

“It’s a brand new car from the ground up,” Kindor said. “It really is a special car.”

The new 911’s wheelbase is longer, the car is wider, it weighs less and, perhaps most importantly, it’s “faster than its predecessor,” Kindor said.

The car, which boasts 400 horsepower, goes from zero to 60 in 3.9 seconds. Its base price for the S-model is $96,400, Kindor said. The one that was unveiled Saturday costs $126,000.

Race car driver Tony “a2z” Adamowicz, who embodies a huge amount of Porsche history himself, also attended.

Adamowicz brought Porsche its first Trans-Am racing championship in 1968 and is the only U.S. driver to ever race the iconic Porsche 917K – “The Holy Grail of Porsche,” he said – in competition.

“So I’ve been in the Porsche realm for quite a bit,” said Adamowicz, who’s 70 and still competing in races. “It’s addictive. It stays with you.”

The second car he ever bought was a Porsche, and he’s since purchased many more, he said.

“It still gives you that feeling,” he said of the newly unveiled 2012 Porsche 911. “That feeling that really only Porsche people know. Everything about the car represents an evolution of the Porsche.”

But there are two schools of thought when it comes to the 911. Some say the last “real” 911 was made in 1998, the final year the car was produced with an air-cooled engine before it switched to a water-cooled engine.

Regardless, more than 100 car lovers gathered at the dealership to enjoy the German autos – both the new and the old.

Bill Simer, with the Porsche Club of America Inland Northwest Region, had his pristine white 1970 Porsche 911S on display. He said he owns 12 Porsches in all.

“It’s a passion,” Simer said. “I like them all.”

50 comments on this story. Comments are now closed.

gotcha on February 05 at 8:07 a.m.
Old Porche’s were mechanical nightmares. Hard to keep on the road. Endless breakdowns. Second only to Fiat IMHO.
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 05 at 10:38 a.m.
Isnt this nice, an article specially written for the uber rich in Spokane to know they can now go spend over $120,000 on a car.
Most people in Spokane cannot even afford a house for that much.
This article has no point and brings no value of anything to people except letting the 1% know they can now go buy shiny new cars that nobody else can even dream of sitting in.
Albert on February 05 at 11:13 a.m.
@catbox….brought a smile to my face. Funny, but for $120k quite appropriate. After all, “it’s all about me”…isn’t it?
gotcha on February 05 at 11:18 a.m.
Must be a Public Sector recipient whineing I hear… Jealous of anyone who has worked hard in life that wants to enjoy a few of the finer things.
Local on February 05 at 12:07 p.m.
Hey liberal why don’t you create another program to help redistribute the wealth.
Middleman on February 05 at 12:20 p.m.
“This article has no point and brings no value of anything to people except letting the 1% know they can now go buy shiny new cars that nobody else can even dream of sitting in.”
Thanks for speaking for me lib. I will never own a Porche, but I had a friend when I was young whose father owned a black 911 Turbo with the whale fin. Incredible machine. I had the opportunity to ride in it a few times down on the Palouse highway going WAY over the speed limit. It was a thrill I will never forget. Incredible!!! This article brought back some great memories for me. If you knew the article would be about a fantasy you would have negative thoughts about, why did you click? You really didn’t have to rain on my parade. Some folks just like to have the freedom to dream and acknowledge a legendary machine.
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 05 at 12:22 p.m.
Redistribution of wealth? Oh I see Local…..you mean when the Republicans steal my hard earned money and give it back to the wealthy, to the oil companies, to the defense contractors, to the military and to their Wall Street buddies.
Is that the redistribution of wealth you’re talking about?
Local on February 05 at 12:49 p.m.
Hey Liberal,
I will take a page out of your comments you made yesterday on the firefighter article. It seems to fit you.
“When I read some of these comments on here, it just looks like you are saying….CRY, WHINE, COMPLAIN, CRY, WHINE COMPLAIN, UNION PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN ME AND THEY HAVE GOOD JOBS AND GOOD BENEFITS AND I AM BEING SCREWED BY MY CORPORATE MASTER, CRY, WHINE, COMPLAIN, CRY, WHINE COMPLAIN.
Little whiny babies.”
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 05 at 1:53 p.m.
So you’re now agreeing with me from yesterday that you just wish you had a union job and bitter you don’t?
Thanks man, I knew you would come around.
jdspokanewa on February 05 at 2:30 p.m.
I’m sorry but I find it distasteful when I see the word sissy when describing someone who is liberal. I’m a gay liberal and I bet this “sissy” would knock you into another universe dazzeetrader11.
Name calling of that sort is just juvenile and dumb.
Sccachamp on February 05 at 2:38 p.m.
Wow….this is just a nice ” feel good ” story about a neat car, a nice dealership and the very friendly folks who work there. No political agenda, no blood and guts, no- one killed, maimed or robbed. What the heck is wrong with you all? Good news is not good news so let me see if I can muck it all and turn it into crap? Wow, the masses truly are asses.
Local on February 05 at 2:57 p.m.
Hey liberal, I know you are trying to change the topic from your whining so I will go along. Nope, I don’t wish I had a union job. I am one of those guys that has risked everything he owns with no safety net. But I do get the feeling you are one of those that likes to talk a lot about what others should do. So let’s do this, talk to me sometime after you have met a payroll.
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 05 at 3:26 p.m.
jdspokanewa, as a gay liberal who has been attacked with bigoted terms from Dazzee before….the best advice I can give you is to just ignore her and don’t reply to her hate, just ignore it and flag her comments and maybe if she gets flagged enough she will be banned. However, by all means don’t reply, it just encourages it.
Let her say whatever she wants so people can see what kind of person she is.
johnclarke on February 05 at 3:46 p.m.
Impressive that a Porsche dealership can survive here. The 911 is an icon, but I know quite a few (ah-hem) older men that have purchased their dream/status car only to realize they are essentially undrivable day to day. The suspension is so unforgiving they end up hating the car. It’s designed for one thing. The streets in Spokane certainly don’t help. I had to swap out the suspension on my M3 or have my kidneys replaced.
johnclarke on February 05 at 3:49 p.m.
Oh come on everyone. Daisy is just in the closet so she attacks gays in order to hide her true self. Embrace your gayness Daisy.
michaelm on February 05 at 4:01 p.m.
Dazzee, here we go again. You’re bordering on strike two.
My Merriam Webster’s dictionary defines sissy as
1) an effeminate boy or man; 2) a homosexual: term of mild content
If you have another definition — one that isn’t a personal attack on someone — please let me know and I’ll undelete your comments.
And I couldn’t find any positive interpretations of “chunky,” either. On another day, I might not have deleted that comment, but it kinda grinds my gears to see three comments from you in the flagged file as soon as I sit down to work.
dataxman on February 05 at 4:05 p.m.
Let’s assume the buyer earns all their money from cap gains and carried interest - so 15%
Buying the $120,000 car will incur $10,440 in retail sales tax. So not including tabs - $130,440 out the door. In order to earn that amount of money, the buyer needs $153,459 in interest/cap gain income.
In summary, the cash needed to buy this car generated $33,899 in tax for the Federal, State and Local Governments.
If the person was a wage earner you would need about $225,000 - with the Fed’s getting the extra…
dataxman on February 05 at 4:07 p.m.
michaelm - nothing positive about Chunky? Come on - it’s a soup - that eats like a meal!
michaelm on February 05 at 4:12 p.m.
lol! Thanks, I needed that.
johnclarke on February 05 at 4:16 p.m.
dataxman on February 05 at 4:05 p.m.
Let’s assume the buyer earns all their money from cap gains and carried interest - so 15%
Was there a point in there somewhere? That people that actually work for a living get screwed compared to the people that can take advantage of the capital gains welfare? Thanks, I think we knew that.
dataxman on February 05 at 4:25 p.m.
JC - you can take it any way you want to. My guess would be: If you are liberal you will decide that we need higher taxes and anyone with enough money left over to buy a Porsche clearly has more than they need. If you are conservative, then you will marvel on how much a person needs to earn to buy a Porsche due to the various governments taking their cut of your earnings.
reservedparking on February 05 at 4:34 p.m.
Wouldn’t buy one even if I could afford it. Too impractical.
At least I could get the ski gear in to a WRX STI. Or any of the three of them I could buy for the same $$.
And darn it again - I missed getting here before the fun stuff got deleted.
johnclarke on February 05 at 4:46 p.m.
dataxman on February 05 at 4:25 p.m.
JC - you can take it any way you want to
Clearly, you are creating an argument in your head.
I think the way I “take it” is income should be taxed the same, that is the only thing that is fair. This moronic argument about how investment income is already “taxed once” is really the worst logic ever…unless of course you can take advantage of it. What is even funnier is the people who do NOT benefit from capital gains welfare yet still defend it.
dataxman on February 05 at 5:04 p.m.
JC - cap gains is not already taxed once. Dividends are. The argument for lower long term cap gains taxes (preferential tax rates on cap gains have been around almost as long as the income tax) is it encourages risk taking and long term investing. Short term cap gains are treated as ordinary income subject to the higher taxes. The carried interest is a crock and needs to be changed. Normal interest from a money market fund is also taxed as ordinary income.
johnclarke on February 05 at 5:37 p.m.
“it encourages risk taking and long term investing”
Yup, and tax cuts create jobs right ? What it “encourages” is richer rich people like Warren Buffett and Mitt Romney, both of whom pay a lower tax percentage than I do.
I’m glad you support the raising of the capital gains tax. All income should be taxed the same - including stock dividends.
dataxman on February 05 at 5:46 p.m.
didn’t say I supported raising taxes on long term cap gains. I would support taxing dividends like other income - if the company that pays the dividend can treat the payments like other business expenses.
Dazzeetrader11 on February 05 at 6:17 p.m.
Michael…sissy= soft like a 10 year old. Has nothing to do with being GAY…
michaelm on February 05 at 6:41 p.m.
Dazzee,
Well, I have to admit I’ve never seen that definition — would you be good enough to tell me your source?
And if “soft like a 10 year old” is what you mean, why don’t you just use that? Granted, it may be a bit clunky, but then there’d be absolutely no doubt you weren’t trying to sneak in a contemptuous term for homosexuals. Or you could use “puerile” (which sounds dirty but isn’t) or “sophomoric” (which sounds like a compliment but isn’t) or “childlike” or “juvenile” or any of dozens or similar terms — put any one of those into your favorite thesaurus searcher and swap them around every day. Aim a little higher with your insults.
And I only deleted the comments that were flagged, and they all referred to the same poster. Have you used it on other people you don’t have a history of antagonism with and I just missed it?
johnclarke on February 05 at 6:57 p.m.
dataxman on February 05 at 5:46 p.m.
didn’t say I supported raising taxes on long term cap gains. I would support taxing dividends like other income - if the company that pays the dividend can treat the payments like other business expenses.
Are you saying the paid dividends are not subtracted from a company’s net earnings?
Dazzeetrader11 on February 05 at 7:01 p.m.
Michael you asked me what I meant with the term. That’s how I use it. You didn’t ask me for a dictionary definition. There’s not hate in it even though the baiters here would like to find hate.
Just didn’t happen. Sorry Michael. That’s what I meant. Too often these people pretend to think they know what I’m thinking. They do not.
So please…remember just because JD or Libby decide to pull the “hate the gys” card…it’s just a way of silencing someone…just like the “race” card. it’s used to silence someone’s view of things.
Don’tbe taken in. Just not fair……not even fair to free speech.
Middleman on February 05 at 7:36 p.m.
I thought this article was about sport’s cars?????
misjustice on February 05 at 7:47 p.m.
@ Middleman, I LIKE sports cars. When I lived in Germany my boyfriend had a 911 Porsche, it was metallic flake Emerald Green and a blast to take on the autobahn. What I really like about the Porsche is the body styling. There’s no mistaking them when they go by on the road, nothing else looks like a Porsche.
I love German cars, have a Mercedes-Benz now but used to have a Jetta. And really like the newest VW Bug. It’s that fine German engineering that gets me…and my Benz is so safe and tamper proof. I get a lowered insurance premium because they hold up so well in accidents. And when was the last time that you read about a Mercedes being stolen using a “shaved” key?
; )
dataxman on February 05 at 7:51 p.m.
JC - dividends are not a deductible expense.
michaelm on February 05 at 7:51 p.m.
Sorry, Dazzee, “It’s my own personal definition” isn’t good enough for me, especially given the animosity you’ve shown toward JD and liberal in the past. It’s not for me to guess what you’re thinking, either; I can only take your comments at face value, using the commonly accepted definitions.
And why must you skirt so close to the edge anyway? As I’ve said before, you don’t have to respond to them at all. And if you do, you could just refer only to what they’re saying, avoiding any reference to them other than their monikers, and I would never (well, probably never; some folks would still try to sneak insults in) have an issue. You could have all of that type of free speech you want.
On a personal note, I work at the SR, and contrary to some opinions expressed on these forums, I don’t think we’re a “rag,” so it really bothers me to see how quickly some of these conversations devolve. Just look at what happened to this thread. The article is a “feel good” story about a new Porsche being unveiled in Liberty Lake, yet out of (now) 32 posts, only four are directly related to it, two are comments about what this thread has become, and most of the rest are back-and-forths about economics and liberals vs. conservatives. It gets a little tiresome for me, but I usually let it go because at least it’s benign, and if I tried to stop that kind of stuff, I’d probably have to block pretty much every article we post. I think if we put up a picture of a rock on the sidewalk there’d be a heated debate about whose responsibility it was to move it.
So please, leave the personal stuff out of it. Call it the Golden Rule, or an ethic of reciprocity, or whatever term you prefer at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule. Just treat others as you would like to be treated.
dataxman on February 05 at 7:54 p.m.
You’re right Michael. Back to the article. Is it Porsche or Pors-cha
brianrbreen on February 05 at 7:55 p.m.
@michaelm
And you thought California people were nuts! :) :)
misjustice on February 05 at 8:03 p.m.
Dang it Michael, when is enough enough?????????
Sccachamp on February 05 at 8:06 p.m.
@ middleman…so did most of us who read the story …….again, good news rather than bad, $&);(:/& up by idiots; true unadulterated idiots.
I like cars and don’t care for politics. I can also pretty much assure you that a Porsche does not give a crap what sexual orientation you have or what political stance you take and quite candidly neither do I.
Again, what is great about the story is that it is good news, not bad. Something other than depressing news, made the news. The sad part is that a@@holes like the ones posting above have to find a way to &@/& it all up.
What a depressing way to live……do me and everyone else on the planet a favor….give Jack a call and get it the hell over with
already!
misjustice on February 05 at 8:17 p.m.
@ dataxman, Porsche is correctly pronounced as a two-syllable word, ‘POR-shuh’.
johnclarke on February 05 at 8:18 p.m.
dataxman on February 05 at 7:51 p.m.
JC - dividends are not a deductible expense.
Survey says WRONG. Standard dividends are subtracted from a companies net profit. Sounds like you could stand a little Accounting 101 friend. Painful isn’t it - to find out that all that right wing propaganda is a bunch of crap.
michaelm on February 05 at 8:19 p.m.
This is going to be the last comment by me or anybody else on this thread.
“Well I though so Michael…but look who destroyed your “feel good” story…SO it’s not me who disrupted…it was….”
Again with the “He started it!” defense? And it wasn’t an attack on you, by the way.
“someone call the “gay” card bait…and you took it.”
My point about the terms you use seems to have fallen on deaf ears, so I won’t bother repeating it.
“And..I’ve never called the SR a “rag”. FYI..don’t attibute that to Daisy.”
I never said you did. If that was in any way implied by my referring to it in a post directed to you, I apologize.
“they gays seem ot have the hate going for wealthy people and cqrs wealthy people own.”
I don’t even know how to respond to that one, but I think it speaks for itself, or at least its source.
“Why because you’re selective in your opinions as to what you’ll enforce.”
My criteria are listed right above the comment box: “Please keep it civil. Don’t post comments that are obscene, defamatory, threatening, off-topic, an infringement of copyright or an invasion of privacy.” Granted, I’m often lax on the “off-topic” rule, but I’ve already explained that one, and even there I have my limits.
This thread is closed.
johnclarke on February 05 at 8:24 p.m.
misjustice on February 05 at 8:03 p.m.
Dang it Michael, when is enough enough?????????
I know, right.
liberal_in_right_wing_land on February 05 at 8:27 p.m.
Wow, look what I did.
dataxman on February 05 at 8:36 p.m.
johnclarke on February 05 at 8:18 p.m.
Survey says WRONG. Standard dividends are subtracted from a companies net profit. Sounds like you could stand a little Accounting 101 friend. Painful isn’t it - to find out that all that right wing propaganda is a bunch of crap.
Not sure what survey you took buy all three tax classes I took while getting my Bachelors and Masters in Accountancy (and all my tax work since) had dividends not being deductible for tax purposes. If you are going to pontificate about the evils of our tax code, I would think you would try to educate yourself on its workings. You clearly have access to the internet - try staying away from MSDNC & DU - you may learn something
misjustice on February 05 at 8:40 p.m.
I thought that this thread was closed?
brianrbreen on February 05 at 8:54 p.m.
@misjustice
I’m not sure if the thread is closed, but with respect to the Porsche, they are a nice ride. Never owned one but have driven a couple when the government seized them from clients. I took the long, long way. It’s kinda funny but with respect to all the accounting issues being discussed here. I must admit if I had a question… based on past experience I’d opt for the guy with 12 Porsches, the reason he has them is because he knows his stuff.
michaelm on February 05 at 8:55 p.m.
I’m trying. Arrgghh!! Stupid Windoze!
misjustice on February 05 at 8:57 p.m.
“I took the long, long way.”
Ah, yes, the scenic route?
; )
RedCedar on February 05 at 8:58 p.m.
My goodness. 47 comments on a car ad? I thought there was some kind of ball game on TV that everybody was supposed to be watching today.
johnclarke on February 05 at 9:03 p.m.
dataxman on February 05 at 8:36 p.m.
Not sure what survey you took buy all three tax classes I took while getting my Bachelors and Masters in Accountancy (and all my tax work since) had dividends not being deductible for tax purposes
I hope you don’t really do tax work. No one said anything about dividends being deductible, but thanks for trying to not be wrong when you clearly are. The topic, and the age old myth from the wing nuts is that “dividends are already taxed once” because then a corporation has to pay taxes on profit (net). This is the justification for dividends (gain) being taxed at 15%. Oh that and the BS reason you gave up above. You better dust off those books, because dividends are subtracted from net (I hate repeating myself) then the company pays corporate taxes. Well, sometimes companies pay taxes. Keep in mind Mr. Masters degree that preferred stock is different - but I’ll bet a sharp guy like you knows that.