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In this combo of two pictures, a Pakistani woman and children stand next to the remained boundary wall of Osama bin Laden's compound earlier today, top, and, heavy machinery demolishes the main building of bin Laden's compound on Sunday, bottom, in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Pakistani authorities have reduced the house where bin Laden lived for years before he was killed by U.S. commandos to rubble, destroying a concrete symbol of the country's association with one of the world's most reviled men. (AP Photo/Anjum Naveed)
A sizeable stash of pornography was among the items seized when U.S. Navy SEALs raided the Pakistani hideout of Osama bin Laden, almost two weeks ago, U.S. officials say. The officials said it was unclear who the material belonged to, and there was no way to know whether bin Laden had viewed it. Bin Laden's son and two other adult male couriers lived at the compound, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss matters of intelligence. The pornography was among the computer materials confiscated in the raid after the SEALs killed bin Laden, ending an almost ten-year manhunt for the terrorist behind the 9/11 terror attacks/Associated Press. More here. (AP photo: A Pakistani vendor sells local magazines carry stories regarding al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan on Friday.)
Question: What do you make of this development?
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, left, and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, are seen in this undated video tape released Wednesday. For a man on the run, Osama bin laden seemed to do very little running. Instead, he chose to spend long stretches _ possibly years _ in one place and often in the company of his family. (AP Photo/Al Jazeera via APTN, File)
Question: How has your image of Osama bin Laden changed in the weeks since he was gunned down?
As ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash., got an invitation to CIA headquarters this week to see the photos of Osama bin Laden taken after he was killed in Abbottabad.
He said thanks but no thanks. Here's his preparied statement:
“I have decided not to go to Langley to view the bin Laden photographs myself at CIA Headquarters.
I support the President’s decision not to release the photographs. These images are not necessary to confirm that the mission to eliminate bin Laden was a success. Distributing these violent images would also serve no purpose for our national security interests worldwide. Our focus should be on preventing new threats to the safety of the American people.”
Do you think Smith was right to take a pass, or should he have gone to see the photos? Click here to comment.
In this image from video seized from the compound of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a man whom the U.S. government identifies as bin Laden watches Barack Obama on television. This and other videos released Saturday show bin Laden watching TV and rehearsing for terrorist videos. (AP Photo/Department of Defense)
Question: Now that Osama bin Laden's been sleeping with the fishes for more than a week, has your thinking about the raid, President Obama's role in it, or the potential for retribution changed at all?
Item: English: Daughter may have been on ship when bin Laden's body was buried/Alecia Warren, Press
More Info: Like most Americans, Dan English had a lot of questions running through his mind Sunday night when he heard about the death of Osama bin Laden. But on Monday, one detail prompted a few more. "I heard the report that it (bin Laden's burial) was off the Carl Vinson," he said. That's the aircraft carrier his daughter Mamie English-Ciscernos is stationed on.
Question: Have you or any member of your family had a brush with history?
The photo of Osama bin Laden, looking old and gray, in the dingy room watching his old speeches on old tapes on a television screen reminds me of the times I've heard — and read of — people encountering a scary or mean person from their childhood who is now an old person and powerless.
They often wonder what they ever feared, now that the scary person is so pathetic.
Sometimes, older age is a great leveler. In bin Laden's case, indeed.
- Thursday Poll: Hucks Nation has no problem that terrorist Osama bin Laden wasn't armed when shot by two Navy Seals earlier this week. 210 of 234 respondents (89.74%) said they don't care one iota that the terrorist was unarmed when gunned down. 15 of 234 (6.41%) are somewhat concerned. 8 of 234 (3.42%) are bothered that he was unarmed when killed. 1 was undecided.
- Weekend Poll: Who would you prefer to be sitting in the 1st Congressional District seat at the moment — Raul Labrador or Bill Sali?
One of three wives living with Osama bin Laden told Pakistani interrogators she had been staying in the al-Qaida chief’s hideout for six years, and could be a key source of information about how he avoided capture for so long, a Pakistani intelligence official said today. In its first confirmation of bin Laden’s death, al-Qaida warned of retaliation in an Internet statement, saying Americans’ “happiness will turn to sadness.” Bin Laden’s wife, identified as Yemeni-born Amal Ahmed Abdullfattah, said she never left the upper floors of the house the entire time she was there/Associated Press. More here.
Question: Are you surprised that al-Qaeda readily admits Bin Laden is dead?
Good morning, Netizens…
Cartoonist David Horsey depicts the press conference held in the White House Press Briefing Room. White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan began adding details about the raid before the true facts were known, before the debriefing of the Navy Seals involved in the firefight was complete, and thus a lot of facts were distorted and went downhill from there.
Then CIA Director Leon Panetta jumped the gun in an interview with NBC’s Brian Williams when he said a photo of Bin Laden’s body would definitely be released. That step was, at the time, being hotly debated in the White House and the eventual decision went against making the death photo public.
Yes, the talking heads of television news said far more than they should have said in their haste to bring the news of Osama bin Laden's demise to the public. They simply couldn't keep their mouths shut until all the facts were known, and thus the initial story was more than a bit off.
Whatever the details, the facts remain the same: Osama bin Laden, the perverse mastermind of the 9/11 attack that sent this country on a decade-long descent into war and worry, is now swimming with the fishes. Of course, there are people both here in the United States and across the globe that still do not believe that OBL is dead. They believe what they want to believe. Having a picture of his corpse will change nothing.
Those of us who prefer reality to conspiracy theories there are no longer any doubts. Osama bin Laden is dead, and all it took is logic and patience to find that out. Of course, your results may differ.
A Pakistani woman photographs her daughter at a gate of the compound where al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden was caught and killed in Abbottabad, Pakistan Thursday. The residents of Abbottabad were still confused and suspicious about the killing of bin Laden, which took place in their midst before dawn on Monday. (AP Photo/Aqeel Ahmed)
Question: Will this compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, become a shrine?
The White House retreated Tuesday from its most provocative assertions about the operation to kill Osama bin Laden, acknowledging that the al Qaeda leader was neither armed nor hiding behind a female human shield when U.S. commandos fatally shot him during a predawn raid. The disclosures put the Obama administration on the defensive about whether it had exaggerated elements of earlier accounts for propaganda gain. At the same time, additional details surfaced Tuesday that depict a mission begun amid far greater political and operational uncertainty than had been revealed/Greg Miller, Joby Warwick, Washington Post. More here.
Question: Does it bother you that Osama bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot to death?
The images are bloody, grotesque and convincing: Osama bin Laden lies dead, the left side of his head blasted away. But the pictures are fakes. Doctored photos purporting to show bin Laden's corpse rocketed around the world on television, online via social media and in print almost as soon as his death was announced. The pictures have spread without regard for their origin or whether the images are real. Meanwhile, scammers have piggybacked on the popularity of the images and spiked supposed online links with computer viruses/Associated Press. More here.
Question: Why do/don't you want to see photo of dead Osama bin Laden?
OLYMPIA — With American flags sprouting from every desk, senators seemed to swell with patriotic pride and honored members of the armed forces and their commander-in-chief after Sunday's mission that killed Osama bin Laden.
Senate Resolution 8661honors President Obama for "strong, thoughtful leadership"; the military and intelligence agencies for "unstinting bravery" and the Navy Seals for "extraordinary skills, courage and precision teamwork of the highest order". It notes the military and naval installations in the state, including Fairchild Air Force Base.
In nearly an hour of speeches, legislators lauded members of all branches of the armed services and mentioned many of the state's bases and units. After unanimously approving the resolution, they stood to applaud members of the armed forces who were watching from the gallery.
The Special Operations Aviation Regiment, which brought the Navy Seals to and from the raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan, has ties to Joint Base Lewis McChord, Sen. Mike Carrell, R-Lakewood, said.
"We all remember Sept. 11, 2001," Carrell, a sponsor of the bill, said. "A constant question for 10 years has been 'Where is bin Laden?'"
Sen. Mike Baumgartner, R-Spokane, a former member of the U.S. State Department, said he was glad the resolution recognized the work of the nation's intelligence agencies and noted that Spokane Valley resident Ryan Crocker is returning to foreign service to serve as ambassador to Afghanistan.
Others recalled their military service. Sen. Steve Hobbs, D-Lake Stevens, another sponsor, mentioned his time in the Washington National Guard and praised the mission that eliminated bin Laden: "My only regret is I didn't pull the trigger."
Sen. Paull Shin, D-Edmonds, said he'd served in the Army after being drafted in 1958, and would be willing to serve again if needed.
Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, said she's available if needed: "I may be getting older, but I can still shoot."
A Pakistani child seen in front of the compound of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan, Wednesday. The residents of Abbottabad, Pakistan, were still confused and suspicious on Wednesday about the killing of Osama bin Laden, which took place in their midst before dawn on Monday. (AP Photo/Aqeel Ahmed)
“Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaeda killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the Internet,” said Representative Mike Rogers, Republican of Michigan and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. “Osama bin Laden is not a trophy. He is dead, and let’s now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaeda has been eliminated”/Mark Landler, New York Times. More here.
DFO: I think it's a good call. How about you?
Even before foreign policy heavyweights like Sen. Richard Lugar suggested accelerating U.S. withdrawal on Tuesday, Idaho's freshman 1st District Raul Labrador said the death of Osama bin Laden should hasten America's exit. "I do think this is a great time to declare victory in Afghanistan and to look for a way to get out of there," Labrador told the Idaho Statesman on Monday. We are supposed to start withdrawing this fall, but hopefully we can do it even sooner than that. I think we had accomplished our mission even before (bin Laden's death). We had done certain things to slow down the growth of al-Qaeda, to stop what they were doing"/Dan Popkey, Idaho Statesman. More here.
Question: Do you care what happens to Afghanistan (if we followed Congressman Labrador's advice and declared victory and left)?
(Presidential spokesman Jay) Carney said on camera at a White House briefing on Tuesday that Bin Laden had not been armed. "On the first floor of Bin Laden's building, two al-Qaida couriers were killed, along with a woman who was killed in crossfire," he said. "Bin Laden and his family were found on the second and third floor of the building. There was concern that Bin Laden would oppose the capture operation – operation rather, and, indeed, he did resist. In the room with Bin Laden, a woman – Bin Laden's – a woman, rather, Bin Laden's wife, rushed the US assaulter and was shot in the leg but not killed. Bin Laden was then shot and killed. He was not armed"/Robert Booth, Guardian. More here.
Question: Does it bother you that Osama bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot to death?
News of Osama bin Laden’s death seemed to have struck a chord with younger folks who grew up during the war on terrorism. On Yahoo!, 1 in 3 searches for "how did osama bin laden die" on Sunday were from teens ages 13-17. According to Yahoo!, 40% of searches on Sunday for "who killed osama bin laden" were from people ages 13-20. However, it seems teens ages 13-17 were seeking more information as they made up 66% of searches for "who is osama bin laden?"/Yahoo Search Blog. More here.
- Also: Boise, Idaho: One of least risky places to live/Adam Behrman, KBOI
Question: Are you amazed that many teens don't know who Osama bin Laden is/was?
- Monday Poll: A majority of Hucks Nation disagrees with President Barack Obama's contention that the world is safer now that the U.S. has killed terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. 112 of 223 respondents (50.22%) disagree with Obama. 90 of 223 respondents (40.36%) agree that the world is safer. 21 of 223 (9.42%) are undecided.
- Obama Death Photo: 122 of 176 respondents (69.32%) say the Obama administration should release the photo of the dead Osama bin Laden. 47 of 176 (26.7%) say the administration shouldn't. 7 are undecided.
- Today's Poll: Did the U.S. do the right thing by promptly dumping Osama bin Laden's body in the sea?
People rally to condemn the killing of Osama bin Laden in Karachi, Pakistan on Tuesday. Bin Laden, the mastermind behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that killed thousands of Americans, was killed in an operation led by the United States. (AP Photo/Shakil Adil)
Question: Do you think the Pakistani government knew that Osama bin Laden had safe haven (until last weekend) right under its nose?
Good evening, Netizens…
Osama bin Laden's last moment.
Here Osama bin Laden is confronted with a nightmare I am certain he never considered in his “perfect” world, when the Evil Empire he has portrayed the United States as being suddenly leaped up from the ashes of the World Trade Center to bring him down at his last moment. Cartoonist David Horsey could not, in my opinion, have better portrayed the look on bin Laden's face. Fortunately, we appear to be rid of bin Laden forever.
However, before you join any of the throngs of people across the country who are eagerly celebrating bin Laden's demise, perhaps there are some other facets you should seriously take into consideration. For example, what happens to al-Qaida now? Sure, the Navy Seals did a respectable and thoroughly professional job of eliminating bin Laden from the list of known terrorists around the world, but does that mean that al-Qaida is dead and gone? Not only no, but hell no. The al-Qaida terrorist network extends around the world, has offices in several countries other than Pakistan and Afghanistan, and all we have done by eliminating bin Laden is make the rest of them mad as hell and looking for payback.
A logical mind, when confronting the manner in which bin Laden was living in his million dollar home in Pakistan would ask how events of the last two days might effect political relations between the United States and Pakistan. All this time we have been told by our so-called allies in Pakistan that he was living in a cave on the borders of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Yet nearly every time U.S. Armed Forces got word of where bin Laden might be hiding, the minute we arrived in force, bin Laden had vanished. Was it a coincidence that the first time we did not relay information about bin Laden's suspected location to our allies, keeping the government of Pakistan in the dark until after bin Laden was dead, suddenly we had success. How coincidental was that? My opinion is it was no coincidence; someone high in the Pakistani government was keeping bin Laden well-informed. Cut off the military aid to Pakistan for starters.
The same logical mind might also ask what the other members of bin Laden's inner circle of advisers who, it does seem, have been living in huts and caves for the last ten years or so might think of bin Laden's most recent opulent residence in a million dollar home. Perhaps we should circulate pictures of the inside of his residence throughout the world, so his former associates could see how “the other half” lived.
It was a good day for America; it was a terrible day for bin Laden. It is no time to sag on our laurels in self-congratulatory chants of USA! USA! It is time to remain vigilant, and to always remember those who died in the World Trade Center.
"Today is a gorgeous day to wave the flag," posts Marianne Love/Slight Detour. "My flag is out at the end of the driveway, fluttering in the sunshine." Marianne, of course, is joining Americans throughout the country today in celebrating the death of a monster here.
- Some things I love/A Butterfly Moment
- Made in Idaho/Accidental Rabbit Trails
- 1 less bad guy in the world/Atmospheric Ruminations
- Tears & cheers — for Dorothy Carpenter/Bay Views
- Cimarron/Dogwalk Musings
- Facebook isn't a good fit for me/From A Simple Mind
- Maybe spring/Gathering Around the Table
- Oy! What a weekend!/JeanC's Cat House & Shooting Gallery
- 3BT: Extra sleep, inward vault of prayers, grading papers/Kellogg Bloggin'
- The buck that made it to the pan/Stebbijo's Place
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In this image released by the White House and digitally altered by the source to diffuse the paper in front of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, Sunday in Washington. Story here. (AP Photo/The White House, Pete Souza)
The Idaho Democratic Party has issued a statement saying it's "relieved" at the news of the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. troops, and expressing gratitude to all those involved. "Every American can share in this victory," they said; click below for their full statement.