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The magic run ended for the Rogers boys basketball team. Click below for my unedited game story, which will be combined with the Shadle Park boys story in Thursday’s paper.
They call it the “Egg McMuffin” game, the 9 a.m. state opener where people barely have the sleep rubbed from their eyes. Franklin, the No. 1 ranked team in state (in any classification most likely) is wide awake. Dave Trimmer called from Tacoma to say Shadle Park trailed by some 30 points at half and the score was 64-32 in the third quarter at the time. So it’s consolation for the Highlanders who have discovered that 3A is no bargain after nearly placing in 4A a year ago.
Here’s Dave’s story:
“We had some opportunities early to keep the game in check and we didn’t convert,” Highlanders’ coach Tim Gaebe said. “That would have helped our confidence. They’re good and we panicked.”
Any one of these is all you need to know.
The Highlanders blew a layup on their first possession.
The Quakers (25-1) scored the first nine points of the game.
It was 14-4 after one quarter, 42-15 at the half.
Vonchae Richardson, who only missed two shots and hit six of seven 3-pointers, had 20 points.
All that while holding Louisville-bound Peyton Siva, a 6-foot-1 guard, to three free throws.
“I was aware of how quick they are, how up into you (defensively) they are,” Gaebe said. “We knew Richardson and Siva were the guys. We didn’t get
The Highlanders finished at 31.7 percent, just 1 of 14 from 3-point range. Anthony Brown, who is headed to
Only two other players had two baskets and just one finished with six points.
“Again, it’s about confidence,” Gaebe said. “If we had knocked down some of those shots inside maybe we would have been able to go toe-to-toe with them.”
Bullpups are facing a long and lanky sweet shooting team from Seattle that scores five deep. 6-6 player Todd Campbell on wing, 6-8 Paul Jorg in post and a 6-4 wing as well. Team was 10-for 16 from the field at one point, operating out of a 1-3-1 offense that spread the court. But Prep, whose David Stockton hit three 3-pointers, rallied from a 12-7 first-quarter deficit to lead 23-19.
Inglemoor then scored 10 points in the final 4 minutes of the half to go from 27-24 behind to 29-27 ahead.
3 Q - foul troubles and subbing puts four reserves on floor with Travis Long and Inglemoor’s well disciplined crew takes advantage for a 43-38 lead this period. Bullpups need some magic.
4Q - They find some in Sean Fischer who scores 8 points in 50 seconds for a 48-45 lead. A couple ill advised shots and foul on a 3-point try ties it, Stockton answers with a 3-pointer,
Prep leads 53-50 with 1:32 remaining and the ball. It’s a grinder.
56-55 with 20 seconds left. Nicholas put team of 55-50, but Prep allows a 3-pointer.
57-57 with 5 seconds left. Nicholas and Stockton each 1-2 from the line and Inglemoor scores. The game tyer on a put back over the top by 6-6 Todd Campbell in the scrum for a reb of missed layin. Fischer shot off front rim as time expires OT (second today in consolation games).
OT - Fischer opens with hist 5th 3-pointer of half and great spin layin by Long makes it 62-57. Currently 64-61 with 1:08 left.
14,5 seconds, Prep’s hit 8 for 10 from line for 70-64 lead and wins 72-62 (intentional foul for 1 free throw and basket by Stockton ends it.
Earlier, LC blew most of a 17 point lead, but was bailed out by Daisy Burke who made 6 of her 20 points down the stretch to bail out her tem for a 60-55 win.
In an ugly first half, Gonzaga Prep shot just 23 percent from the field, but Curtis was little better. A lob over top cross court to Travis Long for flying layin puts Bullpups up 19-17 at half.
Bullpups can’t generate movement or offense and Ryan Nicholas has been in and out due to a cut (blood time in wrestling parlance). Subs Parker Kelly and Chris Sarbaugh, however, have helped and Josh Kaufmann has made a couple free throws.
3Q - Sean Fischer where you been? Nine points this period helps Bullpups take 36-28 lead
4Q - Prep ahead 48-36 3 min left. Three straight free throw misses giving Curtis a chance. 48-41 with 1:33 left. 17 sec 54-43 (Fischer hits his ft for most part)
final: 54-43, first trophy since 1991
Prep plays Inglemoor for fourth and seventh, 1:30 p.m.
Lewis and Clark girls play Bellarmine Prep for fourth and eighth 11:30 a.m.
When a basketball game gets started an hour late and newspaper deadlines are just an hour away it makes writing a game story difficult. Don’t know if I was able to articulate the drama of last night’s Gonzaga Prep-Decatur game. It was a grinder. Unfortunately for the Bullpups, they came up just short, 48-44 in overtime. Here is a recap of what I wrote and things I may have missed.
First quarter of GP-Garfield is tied 11-11 - Ryan Nicholas took up where he left off with 9 of 11. Game’s physical as might be expected but closer to the vest than last night. Began at 9:30 p.m. Bulldogs extended defense bothers Bullpups. And Tony Wroten pretty special, but Prep hangs tough.
2nd quarter - It’s Long vs. Wroten defensively. Bullpups can’t get outside look until Sean Fischer buries shot from left side with 44 seconds left and 21-20 lead. Stockton goes down lane for another basket :11, but Wroten answers in kind and barrells over Long, but gets block call, 02. Prep up 23-21 at half.
3rd quarter - As gritty as the first two. Prep builds a 30-24 lead early, but Wroton ties it. Then Travis Long makes a strong move baseline for a basket and Nicholas hauls down a rebound in traffic and scores. 34-30 Prep after three.
4th quarter - Wroten’s first outside shot, a 3-pointer with 3:36 left ties the game at 36. He scores again on the second of two Prep turnovers for a 40-36 lead with 2:14 to go. Looks bleak, but Nicholas scores with 16 seconds left and it goes to OT
OT - DeAndre Taylor’s first basket puts the Bulldogs up. Ryan Long’s rebound ties it. But Wroten goes inside for a 44-42 lead with 1:45 left. The Bullpups miss a shot and Taylr hits two free throw. Prep down by four points with 45 seconds remaining. Nicholas rejected with 28 seconds to go - time’s on Garfield’s side.
Final score: Garfield 48, G-Prep 44. Glenn Brooks’ two FTs with 6 seconds left iced the win.
Lewis and Clark steam rollered Jackson 62-31 today to remain alive for a girls basketball trophy. Three seniors, Jeneva Anderson, Sarah Kliewer and Emily Travis played roles. Anderson and Travis particularly with 29 points combined and timely defense and rebounding. Youngsters Mary Blevins and Haley Hendricksen combined for 22 of LC’s whopping 66 rebounds.
Also, although there were doubters, Moses Lake came through for a hard-earned 48-44 victory over Auburn-Riverside. Key down the stretch was Kelly Sutherland who missed a couple of free throws with the Chiefs up by two points, but Moses Lake got the ball back and took off a number of seconds in back court before Sutherland buried a jumper with 21 seconds left. Jordan Loera had 21 points and Carly Noyes added 14 and had 10 rebounds. They both came up with big points in the taught contest when A-R made a run. Sutherland scored 12.
Eisenhower boys trailed 29-15 at half, but scored 51 in the second two quarters to win 66-64.
It’s late Thursday morning in Tacoma, Day 2 of the State 4a basketball tournament. Lewis and Clark concludes loser-out games at 2 p.m. against Jackson. Gonzaga Prep boys get the midnight special (8:30 p.m.) against Garfield in the quarterfinals. Today is picture day and in the WIAA’s infinite wisdom, the pictures are taken on court rather, say, than in the Exhibition Hall. That usually sets the games back in time. Expect a later start. Speaking of which, the girls games that usually run late were right on time Wednesday, but the boys ran late yesterday in part to the foul-filled slugfest between Eisenhower and Curtis. So the G-Prep 7 p.m. game and LC 8:30 game overlapped by about a half.
As for Prep’s dandy:
Like Gonzaga Prep, Lewis and Clark’s girls basketball team dug itself a big first half hole. But a third-quarter rally has gone for naught and they trail 47-35 with 4:22 left to play.
the Tigers trailed by 13 points in the first half and were down 31-19 at halftime. A Jeneva Anderson fueled rally cut the lead to 33-31, but following a Federal Way timeout they ran off six points in a row in the final 47 seconds of the quarter and now are on the verge of putting the game away.
Things look bleak for Gonzaga Prep at the outset of their game against Decatur, which started at 7:30 p.m. Outscored 17-2 Prep struggled in first quarter before Sean Fischer hits two 3’s and David Stockton scores near end of period for 17-10 deficit.
From there the Bullpups regrouped, outscored Decatur to take a 31-26 halftime lead.
Nicholas goes wild, 11 points, 48-45 prep after three quarters.
Nicholas hits two FTs, puts G-Prep up 52-48 with 3:55 to play.
Score remains the same, but now 2:47 remain. LC girls close to tipping off vs. Federal Way.
Marcus Gibbs gets away with a major shove on Stockton, gets the steal and layin. Tie at 54. But Nicholas hits two FTs to put G-Prep back on top 56-54 as clock hits 1:00.
Out of a timeout, Terrell Wiliams gets a good look at a 3 but hits iron only. Nicholas rebounds, gets fouled and hits both FTs for a 58-54 lead. 15.8 seconds left.
Another missed 3. Stocton rebounds this one and heads to the line with 7.1 seconds left and a chance to ice things.
FINAL — Gonzaga Prep 60, Decatur 54.
The Bullpups looked poised down the stretch — much like the team that won the GSL title.
Quick stats of note from the final box:
Nicholas 22 points … 7x12 from the field, 8x8 from the line, to go with 6 rebounds.
Stockton had six turnovers maneuvering through the Decatur pressure but also had 13 points, seven boards and three steals.
Tibbs led Decatur with 19 points but was only 2-of-8 from 3-point range. Also had seven assists.
G-Prep held Decatur to 36 percent shooting (18-of-50) and outboarded the Gators 35-31.
TACOMA - The favored Federal Way boys found themselves behind 8-2 in the first quarter against upstart Redmond, but quickly righted the ship. The Eagles were up 17-10 after a quarter, 37-16 at half and cruised to a 66-36 victory. Like to get up and down the floor, but most of the early scoring came from afar. They’re one of two South Puget Sound league first-day winners already, Kentridge topping Mariner 65-50. Earlier Inglemoor edged Roosevelt 42-40 in a first-round game between KingCo Crown Division teams. May seem to violate the WIAA rule where league teams can’t play each other early, but Roosevelt got here at the expense of the Greater St. Helen’s league in the Vancouver area.
In girls play Moses Lake got off to a good start, 51-38 over South Kitsap. Carley Noyes was 10-13 from the field for 20 points, sophomore Jordan Loera had 16. Auburn-Riverside, back from 3A, whipped Eastlake 48-30 meaning two Wolves are in the loser’s bracket. Traditional power Snohomish was up 33-12 at half over Bellarmine Prep and leads 49-29 with 3 minutes remaining. Final: 53-34.
By the way, get on WIAA.com and you can get access to game broadcasts.
Greetings from Tacoma - third week on the road. It’s the rest of the state versus the Tacoma area schools in the Dome. We’ll find out if last year’s finalist, Federal Way can ascend to the 4A throne vacated by Ferris. Kentridge, Todd Beamer, Curtis, Foss and Decatur make up nearly half of the field and AP Poll media voters’ concensus was that this is where state power lies. Walla Walla (Beamer), Eisenhower (Curtis) and Gonzaga Prep (Decatur) face half of them. Lewis and Clark girls play Federal Way to open their title defense. Both the Bullpups and Tigers play late on Wednesday.
Here’s Doug Pacey’s take on the tournament from the News-Tribune in Tacoma.
I’ll be in touch.
The B’s are in Spokane where Northwest Christian is going for four in a row, Colfax, a former 1A power is hoping to crash the girls title party. 1A is in Yakima where Freeman girls are the lone local representative.
They took the hard road, but both Gonzaga Prep boys and Lewis and Clark girls are headed to state. That means the GSL won’t suffer the ignominy of not have a boys team there for the first time in memory and the Tigers have kept intact a string now at seven trips - which means I avoid the “what happened to LC” questions.
Both teams had to win three straight games this weekend to advance and both did so. That is what is known in the sports world as a gut check
Greetings from Kennewick. Just got done with Gonzaga Prep-Wenatchee at 11 p.m. - LC vs. Walla Walla got over about half an hour earlier. And what do we get? A rematch between the Tigers and Bullpups at 1 p.m. Winner then plays at 7 for the third state berth.
Same, same the girls where Mead lost a gut wrencher to Moses Lake. They dominated the boards, but couldn’t get the ball to fall through the hoop in the fourth quarter, losing a 7 point lead and the game 48-47. The Chiefs Jordan Loera (prounounced Lo-etta) took over the game in the second half for 15 of her 22 points and 6-foot-5 Carly Noyes scored with 8 seconds left for the win after Tifa Puletasi fouled out. Puletasi had done a great job on defense and getting her hook shot over Noyes, but wasn’t there to stop the last ditch shot. Taylor Ingebritsen’s shot as time expired hit backboard and front of the rim but missed.
So the Panthers play LC at 11 a.m. with the winner also playing at 7 p.m. for state.
It’s Moses Lake vs. Pasco in girls, Eisenhower vs Wa-Hi in boys for the regional title.Last time no GSL boys were in the title game was 2004, for the girls it was 2003
After watching Tuesday night’s basketball game at Gonzaga Prep and reading some other results, my suspicion that the Greater Spokane League wasn’t that good seemed confirmed. Then Lewis and Clark produced a 75-73 double overtime win in Pasco and it seemed to show further how unpredictable basketball has become.
GSL champ Gonzaga took it on the chin against Columbia Basin Big Nine No. 4 team Richland 54-45. The No 2 Tigers beat the CBBN No. 3 in 4A. Mt. Spokane was eliminated by Sunnyside in 3A 51-45. Fourth time proved a charm for Rogers which ousted North Central 55-43 after losing to the Indians three times during the year.
No. 1 Mead’s girls won easily over No. 4 Eastmont 49-27, but No. 2 LC was beaten 70-52 by CBBN No. 3 Walla Walla and Darcy Weisner’s freshman daughter Jamie (28 points, 19 rebounds). In 3A, North Central shocked East Valley to advance with its third win this year. Mt. Spokane lost 60-63 in a heartbreaker to Hanford in Richland.
4A teams play Friday and 3A on Saturday. Buy a Spokesman-Review for teams and times.
The Lewis and Clark-Pasco boys basketball game concludes tonight’s first round of the regional basketball playoffs, but it could be a litmus test for our chances when the CBBN 6 take on the GSL 2.
“Pasco is a horrible matchup for us and we’re a horrible matchup for Pasco,” said coach Jeff Norton.
The first of the vacant GSL football coaching positions has been filled by a high profile name. Bill Diedrick, longtime college and professional assistant coach and coordinator is coming home to take the reins at University High.
Lewis and Clark’s job will be posted soon and activities coordinator Jeff Norton said it will be opened up outside, although he anticipates interest for the position within. Process is on-going at North Central.
There’s palpable excitement at U-Hi in the hiring of the Spokane native and Rogers high coach in the late 1970s. Diedrick is a storied name in town and it sounds like a lot of former Titans assistants - dating back to the Dave Holmes era - are excited enough to want to re-up.
“I’m excited,” said U-Hi activities coordinator Ken Van Sickle. “We had a great pool of candidates. Withhis experience and backround, it is great for our community to have someone like him take over our program.”
Diedrick, during his college career mentored 12 quarterbacks who played in the NFL, helped coach a Grey Cup champion in the Canadian Football League, was part of a national champion Montana State team and worked for coaches like Tyrone Willingham, Dennis Erickson and Jim Lambright.
Deer Park put all its wrestlers in the finals today - Blake Adams, Drew Acorn, Billy Rhoads, Brandon Leliefield, Cody Miller and Shawn Burton - to wrap up its second straight State 2A championship in convincing fashion. As coach Matt Jorgensen said yesterday, it’s all about putting people through the front door and when you have six it’s pretty hard to lose. The Stags have doubled the score in the field and will approach last year’s 167.5 point total before it’s done.
Greetings from Tacoma. Survived the first day of wrestling and gymnastics thanks with help from Doug Drowley who works with The Tacoma News-Tribune. I’ll get back to the Tacoma Dome later. First it’s about basketball. Tuesday’s regional for 4A was thrown into a cocked hat when Lewis and Clark’s girls and Eisenhower’s boys, both previously unbeaten, were upset in their respective finals. That means the Tigers are on the same side as Columbia Basin Big Nine assuming both reach next Friday’s semifinals. and the Cadets are on the same side as GSL No. 1 Gonzaga Prep. Don’t know if that’s good or bad news, although it could be an advantage, particularly for GSL girls, giving both Mead and LC better odds to win for an all-GSL final. Of course it could also work the other way. Say Prep beats Ike. That puts the Cadets in the loser’s bracket and if LC drops down, the Tigers will have their work cut out for a state spot.
The favorites moved on as expected in the Greater Spokane League District 8 seeding tournament. Top seeded Shadle Park beat Mt. Spokane and North Central ran off 15 straight points to beat Rogers in boys. The Indians are at the Highlanders tonight at 7:15 p.m. Shadle’s girls host East Valley in the 5:30 opener. Shadle beat North Central and the surging Knights, whose Morgan Manchester has averaged 21.5 points over her last four games topped Mt. Spokane.
Rogers host Mt. Spokane in a game for third and fourth and Mt. Spokane girls host NC. Regional begins next week.
Also tonight, Lewis and Clark is at Gonzaga Prep for the District 8 4A championship and Ferris is at Mead. Winner of second game plays loser of first Friday for the second regional berth. Mead’s girls are at LC for the district title and University is at CV for the right to move on, winner facing the Mead-LC loser for regional. It also begins on Tuesday.
More than 130 wrestlers from this area converge in Tacoma for the extravaganza that has become Mat Classic. In it’s 31st year in the Tacoma Dome, there will be six tournaments going on simultaneously (with state gymnastics going on nearby). And I get to spend two 12-hour days attempting to keep track of it all. So rasslin’ fans bear with me this weekend. It is hectic and tough to follow. But we’ll do our best on little sleep and lots of adrenalin.
Here’s a preview story on Deer Park’s Cody Miller, as he and the Stags chase second 2A state titles. There’s more on all the classifications in today’s The Spokesman-Review
There wasn’t a surprise on the second night of Greater Spokane League district basketball play. League champions Gonzaga Prep boys and Lewis and Clark girls earned the right to play for regional berths. Their opponents, third-seed Lewis and Clark and girls second-place finisher Mead respectively. The Bullpups easily handled Ferris’ youthful boys team, the Tigers scrapped past Mead 59-55 in a game that personified the type of year the GSL had. LC had lost to Mead earlier 55-42, falling behind by nine points in the first quarter and never getting back into it. This time Mead trailed by a 11 after a quarter and although they did get back into the game, couldn’t get over the hump, going 6-for-13 from the free throw line.
LC girls jumped on University early and won 54-35 as Emily Travis scored a season high 17 points. Mead put Central Valley away late to win 64-44.
So the winners meet for the district championship and a regional berth. The losers play Thursday as well with that game winner going against the loser of the title games for the second spot to regional.
Regional wrestling is over. Next up is Mat Classic XXI in Tacoma Feb. 20-21. How did teams fare? Pretty well actually. East Valley in 3A, Deer Park in 2A and Republic in B appear to be the teams most likely to contend for state titles.
The Knights qualified eight to state and had six finalists in a region that included perennial power Sedro Woolley. The Knights won 169.5 to 168, so that bodes well. Neighbors Deer Park and Riverside combined for 19 state berths and with those numbers can be among the placers Republic had five champions and another finalist in a tough region which should stand them in good stead at state.
It seems, however, that most of the eastern regions sort of shared individual wealth. During 4A, things were pretty spread out. Moses Lake, with 10 qualifiers and its share of finalists and champions is returning to its glory days. University had seven qualifiers, three of them champions, but will be hard-pressed to challenge Lake Stevens. And Lakeside, with five champions at the 1A regional, is in the hunt, but might need more depth. Five state titles, however, is worth 150 points or so. And that’s pretty good ammunition.
All told, 135 area wrestlers will converge on the Tacoma Dome next weekend.
Two suspenseful games took the suspense out of the post-season pairings in Greater Spokane League boys basketball. Mead scored at the buzzer to beat Shadle Park and Lewis and Clark scored near the buzzer to beat Rogers.
That means that Mead (11-9) is District 8 4A No. 2 seed behind Gonzaga Prep (18-2) and Lewis and Clark (11-9) is No. 3. Ferris (10-10) and Central Valley (10-10) play each other Monday to complete the field.
Saturday Rogers (8-11) is at Mt. Spokane (7-12) to determine the Nos. 3 and 4 3A positions and who plays Shadle Park (16-4) or North Central (11-9) in district games for regional seeding.
Again, the pairings:
I’M UPDATING THIS POST FROM EARLIER TODAY - Mike V.
Wrestling and gymnastics is into the next to last weekend of their seasons and basketball playoffs are in full swing with 1A, 2B and 1B teams vying for state.
Tonight marks the end of the regular Greater Spokane League season. As it stands right now, Ferris coach Don Van Lierop thought that Lewis and Clark and Mead likely have the inside track to the No. 2 and 3 4A district seeds, even if they wind up in a four-way tie at 10-10 with Ferris and Central Valley. He bases his belief on the quality wins portion of the playoff criteria for ties. LC beat Gonzaga Prep and Mead beat Shadle Park, which neither of the other two teams did.
By my calculations, if there’s a four-way tie it looks to me as if Mead will be No. 2 after sweeping Lewis and Clark plus a quality win over Shadle Park. That would put, the Saxons No. 3 because of its sweep over LC (Both the Panthers and Ferris would be 4-2 in games among the four. With CV finishing 3-3, splitting with the other three, and LC 1-5 it would make sense that they are No. 4 and 5 respectively and would face each other Monday. The caveat is that since CV and LC split and LC has that quality victory, they could be home team for the 7:15 p.m. loser-out contest.
I guess the best thing to do is see how tonight’s games play out and see if it renders all this moot.
As for Districts:
OK. I admit to being remiss in my duties to this blog, but I plead my case. I spent the past five days in California watching my daughter, Linse play softball. Hard to believe it’s her senior year at Central Washington and I vowed to see as many of her games as work allows. Temperature was in the the high 50s and mid 60s. As we were walking into Pedretti Park (in Turlock) in shirt sleeves, the coach from Cal State Stanislaus wondered where we were from. She was headed back home for another layer of clothing. I admit, it was a bit brisk when we flew back into Spokane last night and seeing the snow was a bit disconcerting after a pleasant get away. Incidentally, Linse won two of three on the mound.
Only two weeks remain in the league basketball season and very little has been settled in the Greater Spokane League. We know that Gonzaga Prep (15-2) is No. 1 among 4A schools and Shadle Park is a win away from being No. 1 among 3A teams. Behind them it’s anybody’s guess. Only team mathematically eliminated from post-season is University. East Valley kept itself slimly in the 3A hunt by beating the Titans and Mt. Spokane last weekend.
Also upcoming are district competitions for B teams. State 1B is just three weeks away. There’s no regional like last year. District 7 (Bi-County/Panorama Leagues) have four 1B and three 2B state berths. District 9 gets two and two.
State 4A eastern region has three state berths for boys and girls and 3A two this year. Great Northern League gets two teams to state (boys and girls). Northeast A combines with Caribou Trail League for three state spots.
Like Red Foxx on the old Sanford and Son television sitcom, I’m not sure my heart can take much more of the Greater Spokane League drama.
First on Tuesday it was the Shadle Park-Gonzaga Prep basketball game that most in attendance agreed was one of the best high school games in recent memory. Then Wednesday out at Central Valley for the Battle of the Bone it was as thrilling a match as I can recall - rare in that it not only brought in a standing room only audience because of the rivalry, but because it was also for a piece of the league championship for both teams. Noisy as well as dramatic, my ears are still recovering. Thursday’s match at U-Hi against East Valley was another dandy, if not as ear-spliting. Decided by one match, it could have swung either way. The Knights made sure there would be no unbeaten team.
The near-capacity crowd in Shadle Park’s new gymnasium were treated to a whale of a basketball game between teams now tied for first place among Greater Spokane League boys with 13-2 records. There was good defense - although Bullpups coach Mike Haugen didn’t think it was good as could be - spectacular play and an other-worldly effort by Anthony Brown. He scored 30 points had a bunch of rebounds and several huge plays not the least of them three blocked shots in the final three minutes that proved vital to Shadle’s 65-60 win.
Remember Louis Hurd? He played two years for Terry Reed at Lewis and Clark and credits him for teaching life and basketball lessons. But Hurd wound up transferring to North Central where he was second-leading scorer for the Indians with a 14.4 scoring average before graduating in 2005 (a year before NC placed fifth in state). He went on to play for another ex-Tigers coach in junior college and is completing his career in college at British Columbia. The Langley Times did a nice piece on him that I’m passing along here.