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‘He has no principles. None,’ Trump’s sister, a retired federal judge, tells niece in recorded interview

UPDATED: Sun., Aug. 23, 2020

By Bill Sanderson New York Daily News

Take it from President Donald Trump’s older sister: He lies, he’s cruel, he doesn’t read, he cheated his way into college, he only cares about his base.

In conversations recorded by her niece in 2018 and 2019, Marianne Trump Barry – a now-retired federal judge – comes across as aghast at her brother’s behavior in the Oval Office.

“He has no principles. None. None,” she said in excerpts of her conversations with Mary Trump published Saturday night in the Washington Post.

Barry, 83, was appalled at “what they’re doing with kids at the border” with Mexico. As a federal appeal judge, Barry once rebuked an immigration judge for “bullying” an asylum seeker in his courtroom.

She guessed President Trump “hasn’t read my immigration opinions.”

“What has he read?” Mary Trump asks.

“No. He doesn’t read,” Barry answered.

“All he wants to do is appeal to his base. … And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this,” Barry said in a conversation the Post said was secretly recorded.

At another point, the Post reported, Barry said of her brother: “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”

Barry suggests in the conversations that her 74-year-old brother was a poor student. “I did his homework for him,” she said.

Also, she said, “I drove him around New York City to try to get him into college.

“He went to Fordham for one year (Trump actually was at Fordham University for two years) and then he got into University of Pennsylvania because he had somebody take the exams.”

Barry was also appalled at how her brother conducts his presidency.

“His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God,” she said. “I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy s – t.”

There was no immediate comment from the White House about the conversations.

The recordings with Barry are not mentioned in Mary Trump’s recent book about her uncle, “Too Much and Never Enough.” Mary Trump has vowed to support Joe Biden’s presidential campaign.


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